From Pain to Cozy: The Journey to Achieving Comfort

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And now the podcast we're together, we discuss proactive aging on your terms, connecting

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Now here's your host, Mark Turnbull.

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Alright, I want to welcome everybody back to another live view discussion on aging

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Well one of the things that we always say here on aging today is if you're not too busy

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being born, you're too busy aging.

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And today we want to make sure that the topic we're covering is that in the aging process

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you're comfortable.

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You don't have a stiff neck.

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And we want to make sure that you are introduced to a good friend of mine.

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But here to represent Towsie is the creator of Towsie and that is Janice Shocker and Janice

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Welcome to aging today.

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Thank you so much, Mark.

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I'm happy to be here.

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Yeah, I'm excited to have you here because we have a short history in our past and how

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we got together before we get into that.

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I want you to introduce to our listening audience, you know, how you got to the place

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where you are.

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Tell us your story because this is an aging platform and it's all about story.

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Thank you for that.

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And yes, I'm excited to share with you listeners how you and I met.

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But and it's through the path and vehicle of Towsie.

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Towsie means caring for and it's derived from the word Towsimo, which is a small inward

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and it's how I helped to care for my father.

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So when he was in a care community, he was slumped over in a geriatric chair and when I went

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to visit him, the first thing I noticed is that he looked uncomfortable and I thought,

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gosh, there's got to be something that can hold his head and neck in place and he doesn't

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do that next slump and roll and everybody who's listening to this has experienced this

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or witnessed this sometime in their life.

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Just go on a airplane, just go into a care community.

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Towsie is falling asleep and their head slumps over.

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So my dad had a pill behind him.

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Have you ever had that experience, Mark?

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Oh, yeah.

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So I grew up with my with my mom in the car and every time we had five kids and we would

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all sit in the back seat of the station wagon and as soon as my dad started driving, my

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mom fell asleep.

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And her head went bob back and forth all the way to the end where the destination was and

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we would all have just a good laugh at it.

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To this day, she still does it until we introduce her to Towsie, but that's getting ahead of

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the story.

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But I just want you to know that yes, Dan, your question, the bobbing of the head is something

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I think we all struggle with and I'm so grateful that you came up with a solution.

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But before we get into Towsie, I want to know more and my listening, Andy, once know more

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about you and were you always an innovator or is this something that just came out of necessity?

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I have to say I think I've been an innovator.

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I remember in third grade was my very first invention for a class assignment and I was

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so afraid to share it with the teacher because I thought she would steal it.

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And it was liquid paper in a pen.

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My sister was in high school and she was using liquid paper back for those who don't know

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when you did anything on a typewriter.

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If you made a mistake, you can erase it with this little liquid white, white out basically.

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And so when she was shoving it back into the little container or nail polish container,

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it was the brush was all cakey and I thought that's terrible idea.

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I was like, we were taking it out and exposing it to air and then it was drying and going

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down so I invented liquid paper in a pen.

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I have 17 different inventions since I've been an adult.

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But Towsie is the first one I took to market and the first one I got a patent on.

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Yeah, well, so I mean, that's intriguing because I think there's a budding entrepreneur,

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there's a budding innovator in most all of us.

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But I think the thing, like you said, you had like 17 different ideas and for whatever reason

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this one you actually acted upon and how many times in my life where I've, I'm kind of

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built the same way.

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I've got all these ideas running through my head.

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I've got all these innovations and then somebody actually comes out with and I go, why

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didn't I act on that?

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Right.

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You know, I had the same idea.

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And they're sitting on a beach, you know, sipping, you know, my ties.

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You know, truthfully, they're most likely not.

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It's not the get rid of quick scheme with an idea.

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I've, I, that's a misnomer that I've experienced.

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So it's a, it's a haul and it's a lot of dedication and this idea was really because it was born

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out of a need to care for my father.

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You know, when people innovate and create ideas, usually it's to solve a problem that we

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all have.

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And when I researched it, like not everybody had a problem about being a bad ice cream cone

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eater and I'll tell you about that invention another time.

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But, but it's a, it's a way of me saying, you know what?

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I went to focus groups.

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I put together a bunch of people and I, and I had seven different focus groups, all different

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ages and I'm like, is this something that you would like?

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And everybody who experienced Towsie had the exact same reaction and I was recording their

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reactions.

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But when they leaned back into Towsie and for your listeners, I just want to describe

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a Towsie's a pillowcase that supports your head and neck while resting in an upright

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position and it straps to a chair.

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And when they would lean back into Towsie, they would say, Oh, I need this.

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Yeah.

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And I think there's some, because even when you're with a high back chair and you're leaning

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back, your head always flops to the right or to the left one way or the other, right?

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And inevitably.

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So this then supports your head is what you've set out to create.

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Correct.

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So for your, for your listeners, I want you envision the shape of a you.

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The sides of the you is what's cradling the sides of your head.

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And it's not stuck against your head.

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You have some space.

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And then for then the bottom of the you hits your occipital nerves behind your neck and

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that helps to give you accurate pressure to release stress.

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So that return to being comfortable, I think it's, it's when a baby was cradled in somebody's

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arm.

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I think Towsie returns you to that old familiar feeling that you forgot.

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Good.

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I was going to say so you, you have Towsie right there.

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It's you.

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And for those that are on YouTube, they can actually see what Towsie looks like.

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Is this a good time to show Towsie?

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This is going to be a great time to show.

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I'm going to demonstrate Towsie.

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I have it in the back of my chair just so you know, and I, every Towsie, you're going to

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see a, this is a marine blue color Towsie.

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And it comes with a little mini bonus pillow.

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I put the white ivory bonus pillow into the marine just so you can see the contrast.

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Towsie lifts up, has straps on the back so you can strap it to your favorite chair.

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And I'm taking out the mini bonus pillow and I'm hooding it behind my head and neck and

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you can see how your head would be caught to the left or to the right.

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So you will naturally start to slump when you fall asleep, but Towsie is strong enough

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to keep your head in place.

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So you'll get that neck strain that we all get.

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And it's machine washable.

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The key to that is it supports the head from flopping back and forth.

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And then also what about when you're sitting upright, what keeps your head from flopping

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forward?

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That's when you have to make the adjustments and recline your chair back a little bit so

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you've got the gravity pulling that way.

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You could, but people's heads do the same thing when I did a study on heads slumping and

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rolling.

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The first thing the head does is goes to the side and then it will go forward.

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So if you're catching the head before it goes forward, then you are in then Towsie's super

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effective.

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Now some people do have a condition where their head is bent forward as you age.

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Towsie would be effective if they're leaning back.

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At least a good 45 degrees back.

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And that's where you'd want to have a reclining chair where you could tip the chair backwards

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to force the gravity to take the head.

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And then but you're keeping it stabilized from right to left.

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Correct.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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I've been on planes where I'm in the emergency row and I cannot or right before in front

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of the emergency row and I could not leave my chair back on the airplane.

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And I use Towsie because it can fit perfectly.

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Wrap, strap it around the headrest, not the whole seat.

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And I was still able to sleep and did not do that forward slump and roll.

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Well, and I think that's something that, you know, our listeners should realize about

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Towsie is that it's not an age, so much of an age related or, you know, what's the

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word I'm looking for and not a product, but it, um, a, uh, adaptive equipment.

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It's, it's, what it's doing is it's crossing all barriers of the demographics, whether you're

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young or old, our heads when we fall asleep, they still want to flop.

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Absolutely.

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And I really appreciate you recognizing that and bringing that up like my son used to

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in college because he used his bed as a desk as well.

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So he used it for more comfort while he was working on his laptop and he took the little

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mini bonus pillow and, and put his laptop on it.

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So it was at a better height so he didn't get tech neck.

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So, you know, you're absolutely right, Mark.

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It's not age dependent.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And so, um, and how many colors does it come in?

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Because I noticed you got the blue.

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I have the, the tan one or the brown one.

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Tell us who comes in four colors.

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We have your gray, ivory, camel and marine blue and we come in horizontal and vertical

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configurations and horizontal is, think about a pillow sham on your bed that fits your

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bed pillow.

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So you can have a different experience and the horizontal gives you upper, upper back

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support.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, and let's get into the application of it.

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Sure.

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It's, it was primarily designed because your dad, his head was flopping as he was sitting

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in a, in a chair for our senior population.

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What, who best benefits from the Towsie and does it transfer to like a quadriplegic, a

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parapoligic, more so, even more so than somebody like myself who just flops when I sleep?

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Great question.

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Uh, you, I, upon my research of this product, I found that 17 markets, um, in the healthcare

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industry from, um, people with heart conditions to strokes to 17 different challenges.

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Parkinson's, um, ALS, how about, have a tough time adjusting themselves like with somebody

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who has heart surgery, you have to sleep upright for three weeks during your recovery.

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The first three weeks and 80% of people get head and neck pain while sleeping upright.

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And when I research seniors, 80% of those seniors don't want medical intervention.

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They want comfort care.

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And that whole notion of comfort care is, um, really a beautiful way of approaching aging

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where we don't necessarily want to just take a pill, but we just want to be comfortable.

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Okay.

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And, um, and so there's, there's many types of, of, where there's many populations of people

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that can utilize it and for those that don't have the neck muscles or the strength to

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support their heads, um, Towsie accomplishes that mission.

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100%.

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Yes.

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A friend of mine had a stroke, um, and it was, and then she had three strokes back to back

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to back.

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So she was in a really rough spot.

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And she preferred to use her Towsie.

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What I would call upside down.

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So if you're envisioning the use, she had it on top of her head, the site of where her surgeries

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were.

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And she felt like she was cocooning and caving, you know, caving in.

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You know, that's a beauty about Towsie.

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It's one product that you can use in multiple ways.

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So it's sustainable as well.

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You can use it for lumbar support, head and neck support.

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Like your mom would have really benefited when traveling with five boys who were laughing

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at her from her head, flopping.

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So it's, it's a product that's again, not age dependent, but it's something that we really

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want to make sure that people feel comforted and cared for.

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Yeah.

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And so with you alluded to this in the beginning, the name Towsie, how did you come up with

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that name?

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And you know, what personal was there something personal that resonated with you when coming

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up with the name Towsie?

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Great question.

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Towsie is derived from Towsie mode, that Simone word for caring for.

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I am, I'm going to tell your audience in you a secret.

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I am really bad at naming anybody, anything.

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My kids and my, uh, was, their names are very similar sounding and basically named after

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my very first pet, which was her cat named Camille and I've got Camille and Cameron.

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It's like, there's no imagination there.

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And so I was really afraid of like coming up with the name for this product.

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And I've had, I had different groups of people trying to help me out because they thought

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it was a great idea.

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And we had heads up and we had, you know, rest your head and all these things.

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And I really wanted care in there.

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And so just really troving words that were from another country was, um, I had two people

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were helping with some idea and branding and, um, anybody's interested in a brand designer,

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a tricky water is a great company.

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And Manish and Mary Swenson came up with the whole suite of names and this was the one

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I chose.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And you're not even, um, Simone.

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No, no.

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No, no, no relation there at all.

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I'm trying to think, I think my 23 and me said, I'm like 1% Simone, um, but I don't know

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where it really in the lineage.

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I don't know how.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Let's, let's talk a little bit about, you know, okay.

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So it's primary mission is in an upright position, but you also alluded to that there's

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other positions, other applications that you've discovered that Towsie can assist

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people with.

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The waves said that question was so true, discovered.

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I didn't realize how fun this invention is until I started using it.

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Um, the first one to really use it was my husband who had retinal surgery and he was doctor

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prescribed to sleep upright for a week and from where his tear was on his eye.

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So he had zero scarring on his eye, which most people get like 20% because their head gets

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out of plant whack and then, um, and then following that, I wound up injuring my back.

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And so I want to show you why I have Towsie on my chair for back supports.

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And for those who can see, you can take your mini bonus pillow, rotate it 90 degrees and

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you can have acupressure on your back from that rotation.

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So Towsie is a product that you can use in the way you need to be comfortable at that time.

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Okay.

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And so, and then some of the other applications that you've discovered along the way, you

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know, you mentioned earlier about traveling.

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Yes.

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Talk a little bit about how they, it helps assisting you with travel.

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Well, if you, if we were to pull out my, my vertical Towsie, which I'm going to hold up, you

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can see how it has a longer, um, uh, last of fabric, which is you would put your pillow

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inside.

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You would strap Towsie to your headrest of your airplane or again around your, um, seat

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in your car.

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Uh, I put it on a mounge chair, uh, in Maui by the pool and it just supports your head

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index. You're not having a travel pillow that goes around your neck because I've purchased

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so many different travel pillows that I force my neck to act like it's comfortable and

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lean to the left and lean to the right.

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I have, I have yet to find a travel pillow that works.

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I mean, the way that's comfortable.

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Right.

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Towsie the next time you travel.

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I will.

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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It's a, um, it's something that I wind up, uh, you know, I just like to be able to, um,

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be comfortable and I used to call myself the queen of comfort in my house and, uh, I used

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to fluff my kids pillows when they were sick and make them flip flop on the couch because

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if you're not comfortable, you're not really getting restored of rest.

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So how does that work on an airplane when you're, you know, sitting in a seat and you, you

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want that rest and you don't want to use a travel pillow, but you want to use Towsie.

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And there's a strap that goes around.

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How does that, does that strap and feed the passenger behind you?

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Great question.

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No, usually most, most, uh, airline seats have a little headrest that you can create wings

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of that headrest, you know, support, supposed to support your, the size of your head.

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Mm hmm.

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So I just take my Towsie straps and I just wrap it around that headrest and sometimes I

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don't even bother strapping them because the weight of my body holds the Towsie in the

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right position for myself.

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So you don't have to even worry about the straps?

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No.

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No.

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And your body will keep your, your Towsie in place.

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And then I take the mini bonus pillow, put it on my lap and I put my cell phone on that

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so I can watch a movie and I don't get tech neck because you know, when we look down too

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long, we get that tingle in the back of your neck.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I can, I can really see the application for our senior population with those that

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have, you know, low neck muscles, you know, that ability, that strength to hold up their,

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their neck's ALS.

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I could see where that would really be, something that would be useful in quadruplee jigs, parablee

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jigs.

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Exactly.

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And you know, our neck's never get to relax fully.

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Yeah.

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If you think about it, you're watching TV, you're investing your bodies relax, but your,

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your head and neck is more upright and we get neck pain.

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Did you know that 80% of seniors have head and neck pain?

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80% of these seniors prefer comfort care over medical intervention.

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Towsie of Towsie brands is the comfort you always needed for head, neck or back support.

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Go to Towsie brands and use the discount code, Comfy, C-O-M-F-Y for 15% off of your Towsie.

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This did you know moment was provided by today's guest and is brought to you by Royal Hospice

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of Oregon.

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And then with that, what are the benefits of getting that rest?

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Because one of the things that I notice when you're taking a nap and your head is flopping

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around, you either have a sore neck or you really don't go into, you know, a deep sleep.

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And I think that that's, you know, if you know that your head is supported, then your body

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does relax and then you can go into that deep sleep.

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Talk a little bit about the benefits of a full rest.

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Oh, Restorative Rest is key to our health and it's important that we have that, that we

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start a rest, you know, as I mentioned after heart surgery, having a sleep upright for three

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weeks.

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My husband being really afraid of having a sleep upright for one week after his eye surgery.

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When you can fully relax into a product that you know that's got you, you know, that's

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got your back.

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It's like if you're camping and you don't feel safe or in your environment, you're not going

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to rest.

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And if you're uncomfortable in trying to sleep, you are always waking up.

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You're not getting that full 90, you have to be 90 minutes into your REM sleep in order

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to have that time for your cell on a cellular level for you to restore.

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It's important.

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You know, you think I'm a napper, I'm a sleeper.

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I use Towsie, here's one other vanity application for Towsie, if you don't mind if I take a soft

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topic.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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And this one, I like, because I put on so many nighttime creams because I'm a woman of

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a certain age now and the anti-wrinkles and all of the serums and lotions.

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And I found, I was just wiping them off on my bed pillow and I was like, well, let me

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just use Towsie at night because I always use Towsie on my chair.

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So now Towsie's and I have another Towsie in bed with me.

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So my head is not falling to the side when I lie in my back.

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And so all the moisture goes into my face.

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So.

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Well, and that's really important for women, you know, that, you know, go to bed with all

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the creams and, you know, all the war paint that you guys have to put on at night, right?

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Right.

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I just think of this.

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Yeah.

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No, but it's true.

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Like men don't have that situation issue.

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And women, you know, we lose the collagen after menopause and boom, you know, we're struggling.

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Yeah.

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And it's important for, you know, you're just your overall health to make sure that, you

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have that confidence in how you look because we do live in a very physical world.

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And I think that's important.

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You know, the other thing that my mom has tried Towsie out and continues to utilize it.

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She utilizes it in two ways.

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She utilizes it when we're sitting out on the back patio on the deck and she's in an upright

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chair.

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And it's at 94.

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She takes her naps during the day.

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And I just, I put her there and she can literally take a nap and, you know, she doesn't flop

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around like she did when she was in the car.

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And I don't get to laugh at her anymore, you know, now that she's got her head stabilized,

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but she does really notice a difference.

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The second way that my mom utilizes Towsie is at night and supporting her laying down

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in the bed.

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And I know you've kind of alluded to that already, but there's the vertical Towsie and then

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there's the horizontal Towsie.

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Take a little and show the difference in the two and how they function.

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Absolutely.

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So, I love that your mom is comfortable.

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And the horizontal and vertical, the Towsie itself, that you that we talked about in the

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beginning, that you shape has not changed.

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Any size is just is 90 degree rotation on from the horizontal to the vertical.

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So the vertical I'm going to hold up and this, if you stuff it with the bed pillow, you

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can get extra lumbar support.

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You don't have to stuff it with the bed pillow.

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You can fold it and now you have a shorter Towsie that can go on a airplane.

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Actually, I like to have the longer, the longer fabric down on my seat because once I had

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to go to an event and I was on the plane and somebody had some food product.

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Maybe a kid was in the seat before me and I wound up with chocolate on the back of my shirt.

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It was white too.

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Of course it was white.

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So I'm like knowing that my seat is actually there for my protection, right with my Towsie.

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So it has shorter straps on your vertical Towsie.

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Now your horizontal Towsie has longer straps meant for that lazy boy and that geriatric chair

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and when I turn it around, you stuff your Towsie with the bed pillow and here are the straps

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and you can extend it as white as you need to and you can also unzip your Towsie.

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The U-shaped foam comes out and it is covered in antimicrobial and antibacterial fabric

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as well as lined in that fabric.

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The reason why I did that was so if you had any head trauma, you can wash your Towsie and

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your bed pillow is protected.

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And is it washed with hot water, cold water?

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It's pretty easy to clean them.

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My Towsie has been washed over 100 times each and I put them through the ringer.

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I put them in hot water, I put them in cold water just to see what would happen.

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I was really trying to investigate this product when I was in the prototyping stages.

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So it's important to me that you're not buying something that looks shabby.

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You have to feel good about a Towsie can sit in your living room.

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That was my goal.

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I think if you have a bed pillow sitting around your house, you feel like it's almost like

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a sick word and you don't feel good about your environment.

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Yeah, I think they are attractive and they don't look like something that they're medical

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which is really important.

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Yeah.

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And the color selection is great too.

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Oh good, thank you.

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You know how often do we give flowers and chocolate to somebody when visiting them in

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a hospital or a care community?

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And Towsie is something that they can really use right then and there and also it's something

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that helps to extend our visitation with somebody who's not feeling well because now they

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look more comfortable.

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And our discomfort of the fact that somebody may be on hospice or somebody may be in the

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hospital starts, we start to feel more comfortable seeing them look comfortable.

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Yeah.

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You know, I always find it interesting how you know there's such a great need out there for

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Towsie and why somebody didn't come up with it before you did.

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I mean, isn't that amazing?

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And yet you know that somebody out there is listening right now and they said, "I had

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that idea and darn it Janice, you beat me to the punch."

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Well call me.

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Seriously, if you had this idea, let's collaborate.

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It's a very nice chat because doing this alone, it's a lonely road and it's important I

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really want people to know about this.

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Everyone deserves to be comfortable.

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Yeah.

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And I think that you know I've had the opportunity to utilize your Towsie product and it works

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and I've seen the expression on my mom's face when she's sitting in her chair and her

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head's not flopping back and forth because that's usually what happens with her.

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And it doesn't matter age.

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She used to do it when she was in her 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s because I know

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I was there watching her as we were driving down the road with her head flopping around.

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And there's something, and I do the same thing.

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Maybe it's Jean Poul, but when I get into a car, if I'm not driving, I mean I'm out really

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fast.

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And yeah, it's, I got it from my mom, but it's frustrating because your head flops well,

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you know, now it doesn't have to flop anymore.

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The only thing is I'm always the one driving.

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So better not, it better not flop if you're in that situation.

460
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Yeah.

461
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:50,920
So is this the first generation Towsie and then do you have aspirations for a second generation?

462
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,160
Well, this is a sad story.

463
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,240
This is my second generation.

464
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:06,120
I started the first generation and manufactured and was ready to launch and go in March of 2020.

465
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:13,280
My goal was to get into hospitals and care communities where the fabric was more industrial.

466
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,040
It was still soft, but it was ready to be washed 300,000 times while my current fabric

467
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
can be washed 100,000 times.

468
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,000
So then I was ready to go on Shark Tank.

469
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:31,120
I got to, you know, move through those levels and COVID shut everything down.

470
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Oh, so I had...

471
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,320
And it's hard to get on Shark Tank.

472
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,320
Yes.

473
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800
I mean, it's a lengthy process, isn't it?

474
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,800
Yes.

475
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Yes, I had my plane ticket.

476
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,320
I had my hotel room.

477
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,840
I, you know, and we were, it was March 13th that we were going and my son came home from

478
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,760
college for spring break and he was in Pittsburgh and two days later and I'm out in Oregon.

479
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,320
We had a turnaround and go pick up all of his stuff and move him out of college.

480
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,120
It was that fast and I had to...

481
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,920
My, my TLC was not something that...

482
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,400
It was, it was definitely more hospital quality, not that it was not lovely.

483
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400
I still, you know, I will still sell that.

484
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:19,640
But this one is the luxurious feel of the, of the Chanel fabric you want around.

485
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,240
It's so soft and it's yummy.

486
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:28,320
And so I had a remanufacture, which is another expense and, and then rebrand and give it

487
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,320
another name and really go to market.

488
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,480
So it's, TLC may have been older but this is my second iteration launched on Father's

489
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,160
Day just two years ago.

490
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,240
And my third TLC which I launched at a travel good show is the travel size.

491
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:50,120
So just think about your vertical TLC chop off the bottom fabric and it's a child size pillow.

492
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Travel size.

493
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,840
Yeah, I think that was one of the biggest challenges I had with the TLC on a plane was holding

494
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:04,320
it up, you know, into a backpack, you know, where there was enough room for the bigger one.

495
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,720
And that was my biggest frustration.

496
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,760
I just wanted something a little bit smaller.

497
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,760
I 100% agree.

498
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,560
I was looking for a cinch sack.

499
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,960
So if any of your listeners has any connection to cinch sack companies, I would like one

500
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:23,560
then you can just, you can manipulate world TLC in and then, and then suck out the air

501
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,040
so you can, you can push it down and these would be smaller.

502
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,280
Yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.

503
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,280
Thank you.

504
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120
They actually make little pouches like that where it sucks.

505
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:34,120
Thanks, girl.

506
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,120
Huh.

507
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,120
Yes.

508
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,120
Nice.

509
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,920
Well, I've not found the manufacturer yet, but somebody knows of it.

510
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Yeah.

511
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,920
Okay.

512
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:51,560
So there's, and is there a third generation then coming online or is it, it's really

513
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,560
kind of, this is it?

514
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,320
No, that would be the travel.

515
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:02,000
And then I have some, some other aspects where people, the U-shaped foam insert has some

516
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,200
changes that it will be coming with it too.

517
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:10,800
So if you wanted to have the, the, like a heating pad version or a old pack version or a

518
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,000
blue tooth version, so those are all in the pipeline for my next one day.

519
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Yeah.

520
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Is it memory foam?

521
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000
No.

522
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,000
Oh my goodness.

523
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,000
Foam.

524
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,320
No, foam is a, is a beast.

525
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,840
The foam that we use is extruded here in the United States.

526
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:33,400
My manufacturing is also in the United States because we don't put any additives in our

527
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,400
foam.

528
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,520
And also memory foam, if you think about, if you're audience thinks about it, you just collapse

529
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,520
keep going.

530
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
It doesn't resist you.

531
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,880
And it, it craze like that mold for your, for your head.

532
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,120
And I needed that resistance and Towsie has that perfect resistance that you're not going

533
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,040
to, you can rely on that support that you're going to get with Towsie.

534
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Yeah.

535
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Yeah.

536
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680
Do you have any aspirations to try to get back on Shark Tank?

537
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,440
You know, I, I don't at this moment.

538
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:10,280
I really am into the adaptive equipment and caregiving space because that's my founder's

539
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,160
story to take care of my father.

540
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:20,120
And I really, I just really want to get this in the hands of those who need to be comfortable

541
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:28,000
as they age or as they are faced with some, you know, just life altering challenges.

542
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:34,960
Immotherapy, we have lots of sales going to people who are going through chemotherapy.

543
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,440
And for 15 years old to a five years old have been using Towsie in their oncology visits

544
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,040
to, because you're in that chair for a long time.

545
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,040
Yeah.

546
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,000
And that gives them comfort.

547
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,800
Sounds good.

548
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:56,200
Well, is there, is there anything else that you want to talk about in relationship to Towsie

549
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,520
and something that we haven't covered yet?

550
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,400
I think we, I think we covered all the applications.

551
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440
We covered the benefits.

552
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,800
Anything else that you can think of?

553
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Yeah.

554
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,800
I think we have.

555
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:16,680
I, you know, I just really want your audience to know that there's, that they deserve comfort.

556
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,400
They're loved ones deserve comfort.

557
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,280
Even they're, they're people who that they're caring for.

558
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,720
We all deserve to be comfortable.

559
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,360
And we all have that universal need to help somebody be comfortable.

560
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:33,360
So when we get a Towsie in our hands, that's a game changer for, and you get to decide

561
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,720
how you want to be comfortable with Towsie.

562
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:36,720
Yeah.

563
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:37,960
Amen to that.

564
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,040
So if anybody is out there listening and they want to reach out to you, what's the best

565
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,080
way for them to connect?

566
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:54,240
You can go to Towsie Brands, T-A-U-S-I, brands, B-R-A-N-D-S, dot com.

567
00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:04,880
I'm on all your social media platforms, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, and, and yeah, that's

568
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,880
LinkedIn.

569
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:12,720
So we can, and we can put up our, my links below for this, for this meeting and on our podcast.

570
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:22,240
Well, Towsie definitely is filling a niche, a need inside of a specific niche and making

571
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:27,480
someone comfortable that doesn't have that muscle strength in their neck, and they need

572
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,000
that additional support.

573
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,440
And so Towsie satisfies that mission for sure.

574
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,000
I know that because I've introduced it to my mom.

575
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:43,160
I've used it myself, you know, in cars and it doesn't really does work.

576
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,120
It's actually kind of cool, the way it works and way it functions.

577
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:53,680
It was fun how you and I met with through Towsie because I, I was a little shy, you know,

578
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,440
I have to say COVID kind of changed my personality.

579
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Usually I'd be like, I'm going out there like gangbusters and I felt a little shy to bring

580
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Towsie around and I went and knocked on your door as a, as a community, you know, a well-known

581
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:14,640
person in our community who cares for others, you know, and just to say, hey, would you want

582
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,000
to see what I have here and would you, you know, it was a cold call and, yeah, nothing but

583
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000
welcome.

584
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,520
I appreciate that.

585
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,840
Well, and, and see, I'm an innovator myself.

586
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,720
I've innovated in a lot of different products, you know, in my past.

587
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,560
And I, I love people that think outside the box.

588
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,840
I love people that think counter to expectations and you're one of those people and it was

589
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200
in just a mutual attraction.

590
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,840
And, and just, it's, it's, innovation is cool.

591
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,720
I just, I love being around innovating people.

592
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,840
My grandfather was an innovator.

593
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:56,200
My high school coaches were innovators and reshaping the way American football was played.

594
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,200
Wow.

595
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:04,980
And I went into the ministry and the way the ministry in America, you know, the Christian

596
00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:08,240
ministry is portrayed.

597
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:15,280
And just, you know, my companies that we are running now in home care in the hospice company,

598
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:16,840
they're, they're innovative companies.

599
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,640
We're not just doing the same thing that everybody else is doing.

600
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,600
Oh, I love that book when everybody's zgging.

601
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
I'm zagging.

602
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:32,000
And I think that's important because, you know, there's, you have to separate yourself.

603
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,160
You have to find out what the needs are and meet those needs that people have.

604
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,320
Absolutely.

605
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:46,360
Because when we innovate, when we, when we carve out our own path, it becomes exciting.

606
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,680
And the energy is there.

607
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,880
And everybody feels it.

608
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Like your care, your caregivers who are working with, with their clients and, with they can

609
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,680
bring something new to the table for that client.

610
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,080
If it's like, you know, bringing snow inside so they can make a snow, snowman, you know, just

611
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,280
things that are the sweet story that I heard from one of your caregivers, that to me is,

612
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,760
is a way that we empower each other to live our best.

613
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,720
And that's the whole point of this life, isn't it, to live our best versions?

614
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:18,720
You get one life.

615
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:19,720
Yeah.

616
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:20,720
Yeah.

617
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,920
You only get one time and you only get to go around one time.

618
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:23,920
That's it.

619
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:24,920
That's it.

620
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Yeah.

621
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,200
And I go around comfortably and this is, that's my, that's my argument.

622
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Like, let's be comfortable in this journey.

623
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,520
Yeah.

624
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,920
And, and, and why do what everybody else is doing?

625
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,840
That doesn't, that doesn't attract me at all.

626
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:45,920
I mean, again, I'm not, you know, somebody that is about change for the sake of change.

627
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,800
I'm all about change for the sake of making my life better and making other people's

628
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,880
lives better, looking at it from a different perspective, taking a step back.

629
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,880
And, you know, always say that we're all in the business of touching one another, touching

630
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,760
each other's lives.

631
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,480
And think about all the ways that we touch, we touch with our eyes, we touch with our

632
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,280
mouths, the way, we use language.

633
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:18,960
And most importantly, the way we touch physically with our hands.

634
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:25,840
And it's, you know, we, we can't lose that, that ability to touch.

635
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:31,160
And we, we did, it's important, especially when you're a senior.

636
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,400
I know, oh, I know.

637
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:39,760
And that's, that's the hardest part is when we, when we age, we don't have all those hugs

638
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,840
and, and bringing that touch to seniors.

639
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,080
It's so important and love that mark.

640
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Yeah.

641
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Well, and thank you for reaching out and touching people's lives through Towsie.

642
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,320
Yeah.

643
00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:02,000
And it's all about changing and making everybody's life that much better because we all have

644
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,880
that desire to live our best lives possible.

645
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:13,560
Once again, Janice, how can people reach out and connect with you on the internet?

646
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,600
Well, thank you, Mark, for this time.

647
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:24,520
Hi, everyone.

648
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,600
You can go to find me, Janice Shokrian, SHOKE, R-I-A-N, at Towsie Brands, T-A-U-S-I-B-R-A-N-D-S.

649
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,680
You know, just, just, just Google Towsie Brands.

650
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,680
You'll find me on every platform.

651
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,160
I'm out there on social media, so I would love to connect.

652
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,720
And if you go to Towsie Brands, you can message me directly.

653
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,560
And you know, as you said, something about people want to be touched.

654
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,480
Towsie, I think, is a return to feeling hugged.

655
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,000
And when you're using Towsie, you certainly feel cradled and loved.

656
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000
Yeah.

657
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,680
Amen to that.

658
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:59,880
Well, and I know that because, and it's, the material is soft and it's pleasant to put

659
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,440
your head on it.

660
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,120
And so I encourage everybody out there that, you know, has someone in their life where

661
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,440
their heads are flopping.

662
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,240
Does it matter your age?

663
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:11,760
Does it matter your physical condition?

664
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,520
So Towsie is out to, to stabilize.

665
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,840
No more head flopping out there.

666
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,200
We want to get rid of the flops.

667
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Sounds good.

668
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,200
No, it's for Lex.

669
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,200
All right.

670
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Sounds good.

671
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,200
All right.

672
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,920
This is Mark Turnbull, your host, and I want to thank all of you for tuning into aging

673
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,000
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674
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,320
As a reminder, we are the podcasts where together we're exploring the options to aging

675
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,240
on your terms.

676
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:45,440
And it's every Monday as we release a new show to a new conversation to your favorite podcast

677
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,440
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678
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,640
And remember this, we're all in the process of aging.

679
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,320
And as we age, we really are better together.

680
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,840
So stay young at heart.

681
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:18,040
You make me feel so young.

682
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:29,400
Just like a toy balloon, well, you and I are just like a bulletots running across the

683
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,400
metal.

684
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:37,840
They can have lots of, forget me night so you made me feel so young.

685
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,320
You made me feel there are songs to be sung.

686
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,760
There will still be wrong and wonderful things to be found.

687
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,720
Anything when I'm old and grey.

688
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:53,420
You've been listening to Aging Today, where together we explore the options to aging on your

689
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:54,420
terms.

690
00:45:54,420 --> 00:46:00,200
Join Mark and his guest next week for another lively discussion on proactively aging on your

691
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,680
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692
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,000
creating better days throughout the aging process.

693
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Your host has been Mark Turnbull.

694
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:16,880
Join Mark and his guest every week on Aging Today, your podcast to exploring your options

695
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,880
for aging on your terms.

696
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:25,720
And even when I'm old and grey, you make me feel the way I feel today.

697
00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:29,720
Cause you make me feel so.

698
00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:32,880
You make me feel so.

699
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,280
You make me feel so young.

700
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,280
So young.

701
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,720
You make me feel so young.

702
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,920
You make me feel so young.

703
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,660
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