Deborah Maragopoulos Heal Your Hypothalamus

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Well as you know, this is a show about aging and we're all aging.

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In fact, I always say if you're not too busy aging or if you're not too busy being born,

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you're too busy aging.

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And then along the lines of the aging process, there are many challenges to the aging process

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and our topic today is of no difference.

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In fact, if I were to ask you what one organ of the body has a direct effect on your reproduction,

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metabolism, the circadian rhythm, sleep and awareness, temperature regulation, energy

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production, immune function, automatic nervous system, the stress response aggression, memory

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moods and sexual arousal.

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What would you say?

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Well, if you're like me, I don't know, maybe the body, but it's an organ, it's called the

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hypothalamus.

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And if you guess that, congratulations, you win the 1979 Gremlin.

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Do you remember those?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And here to guide us today along the discussion of the hypothalamus, which I had no idea,

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I've heard of it.

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I didn't know what it does.

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I didn't know what it did.

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I didn't know how it functions, but oh my goodness, when I read our guest book today, I

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was like a whole new, perisand open for me.

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And I have a lot more empathy, especially for all the women out there that are going through

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those, those hot flashes and all those moods that go along with and trust me, my wife,

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I am sorry for not understanding and I have a better understanding today.

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So I want to thank our guest and her name is Deborah Marigapoulos.

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So welcome to Aging today.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you very much for having me.

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Well, one of the things that I really enjoyed doing is, I think I got one of the best

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gigs in town.

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I get to meet amazing people like yourself, incredible people that spend their lives researching,

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studying at a level that puts me to shame.

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And I was so impressed with your background and for the work that you've labored, it's

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a labor of love.

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I'm sure that you've poured into what you do and how you've addressed the hypothalamus.

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But I'm so grateful that we get to have this conversation.

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And I just, you know, we start every one of our episodes with our guests and we want to

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know what's in your story.

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And it's kind of a takeoff on, you know, what's not so much in your wallet, although if you

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want to share that, you can go ahead and do that.

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But what's in your story?

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How did you get here, Deborah, to this place and you're changing so many lives?

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Well, my story as a nurse practitioner, so I'm a clinical expert in the Neuromune Endocrine

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System and an expert in the hypothalamus, its function and dysfunction.

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When I first got out of nursing school, I delivered a premature baby that was born

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in her sex and we were given the choice of whether or not to choose to raise this child as

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a boy or a girl.

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There was no third option.

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And so I have to learn hormones and receptor sites in the entire endocrine system at the

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age of 23 quickly to help my child navigate the system.

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So that led to becoming a hormone expert.

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And I was a family nurse practitioner, so I saw women and men and children.

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And I was specialized in women's health for a little while and then I went back and started

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an integrative practice in 1997 to actually put together complementary therapies with conventional

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medicine.

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And so while I'm conventionally trained, most of my postgraduate work has been in complementary

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therapies and learning botanicals and herbals and supplements and energy healing, you name

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it and trying to put this together.

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And that's in 1997, I really like put out to the universe that I really want to understand

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everything about the neuroimmune endocrine system, so the neurological system, the immune

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system and the endocrine system that produces hormones.

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So let me learn this.

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And so I got the universe, sent me the sickest people you could imagine.

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They were train wrecks, they had multiple issues going on, but I started to see a pattern

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and the pattern led to the hypothalamus.

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It was the hypothalamus that was at the center of all of their issues, male, female, middle

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age, young, older.

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That was the issue.

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And so I started doing research on the hypothalamus and decided to actually figure out what I could

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feed the hypothalamus to cure some of these issues and develop a product.

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And so 25 years later, I have a great product.

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I have lots of programs.

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I've written lots of blog posts.

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I've done lots of YouTube videos to educate people on the hypothalamus.

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Now do not worry.

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Most providers don't know what the hypothalamus is or how to address it.

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Okay.

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It is the organ in your body that's actually located in your brain.

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So if you put your finger like right between your eyebrows and what's straight into your

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brain, it would be right there.

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It's at the top of your brain stem.

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It is not protected by the blood brain barrier.

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So it is exposed to everything you eat, all the toxins, all the viruses, everything that

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happens in your body, it gets exposed to and it orchestrates the entire symphony of hormones,

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neurotransmitters and immune factors.

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So it's like the operating systems of your human computer and you can think of your hormones

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and your immune system and your neurotransmitters is software without an operating system that

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computer doesn't work, right?

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Yeah.

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Does it live next door to the hippocampus?

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It's actually below the hippocampus and above the pituitary gland.

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Okay.

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So it's in that same general area and the hippocampus.

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It's directly with the hippocampus.

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In fact, it's the gateway to the hippocampus.

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So the body talks to the hippocampus via the hypothalamus.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And what I learned is that it's the dashboard.

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It's the central communication.

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Central control for everything.

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Like Houston, Houston, your autonomic stuff.

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And everything you do think about as well.

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So it's your memories, your learning.

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It's all controlled through the hypothalamus.

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Like Houston, we've got a problem.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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It's Houston.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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So that's it.

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So I'm really curious about, and I'm going to back up a little bit about in your past,

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in your background.

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Uh-huh.

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And you were talking about an intersex baby.

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Yes.

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What are the odds?

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I mean, and explain to us, including myself, what is an intersex baby and how rare is

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that?

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It's actually not as rare as you would think.

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So it's more common than being red-headed.

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Oh, really?

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Yes.

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Wow.

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And it happens in, in, uh, all animal species that have, you know, gender and sexual identification.

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So animals, basically.

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Yeah.

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Um, it's basically a kind of a spectrum of what may happen.

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So while male is considered X, Y chromosomes and females considered X, X chromosome, there's

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kind of a, a rainbow of possibilities in between there and the other genetics and the

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way your receptor sites work will determine whether or not this baby is born with male genitalia

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or female genitalia with male type or female type brain function and control and hormones.

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So there's a range of possibility.

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In 1984, when I delivered this child, the, in word, intersex wasn't even a term.

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So this baby was, was called an X, Y female appeared to be female, but the chromosomes were

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male.

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Hmm.

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And so when that happens, they can be completely, completely non-responsive to their own male

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hormone or they can be partially responsive.

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And this child was partially responsive.

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So if they're non-responsive at all, they will grow up and look like a female, act like

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a female, all the female hormones turn on even though they don't have ovaries.

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They just aren't responding at all to testosterone.

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But my child responded to both the male and the female hormones.

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So in terms of the personality and the brain, this child was very much intersex.

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The way the baby developed was much more verbal, red, really early and very social, like

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a female baby usually is.

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So by a year old, most babies, if you actually look at baby's brains at a year old, the female

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brain is way more, the female baby's brain is way more developed and that's because of

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the female hormones crossing over that corpus cavernosa.

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So this child had the kind of brain that a female has at a very young age, but also had masculine

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tendency.

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So it had both, both was happening.

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So because it was such a new, a new, it wasn't new in history, but it was new in medicine,

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especially in the United States.

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In the United States, they only gave me, gave my husband and I two choices.

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You either choose a male or a female in other countries.

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So here was the choice of not choosing at all what we call a middle sex or an intersex

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at this point.

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And that was just let the child choose later and see what happens.

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And then have original cultures when people were born this way, they basically made their

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own choice of how they would live out their life and they might change.

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They may start off more female and then have a male stint and then maybe, you know, asexual

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or bisexual or by gender.

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I mean, it's just, it's, there's such a range.

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So it just allowed me to explore hormones and receptor sites in such a deep way because

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I was motivated to help my child have the best outcome as possible.

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Yeah.

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Isn't that amazing how that works?

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The motivation and because it got personal and yeah, fast, fascinating.

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Well, that was a rabbit trail.

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It was.

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It really was.

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I call that the rabbit.

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It doesn't, and it doesn't seem very much like it's related to aging, but actually we

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now know the newest research is showing that it really is the reproductive center that

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it actually starts the aging process or not.

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So what happens to the main hormone that the hypothalamus makes, gonadotropin releasing hormone,

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what happens at the change of life and that's not just for women, that also happens to

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men that when that hormone starts to fall, you start aging.

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And that happens at a rent between 40 and 60 on the later side for males on the earlier

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side for females, the average is around 50 that that hormone starts to decline in the

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aging process starts.

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And that was one of my questions in regards to the hypothalamus and your research and work

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is focused on the female, the woman's side.

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Obviously, men go through menopause as well because you just acknowledged that.

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Yes.

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We call it Andropause and men.

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Andromining like Androgens.

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And my work is for both male and female, although the majority of my SEO on my website is female

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because that's the big market.

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They're the ones to do the most research on their health and well-being and buy supplements

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and things like that.

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But the book itself actually highlights both genders, actually all genders, there's a

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transsexual in there as well, and a child.

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And so I talk about male and female, middle-life as well as young in the book.

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I put complete case studies in there.

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So you can see the hypothalamus is part of all of our control centers.

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It's not just one of the other.

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Yeah, interesting.

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All right.

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Well, let's get into it.

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Let's break down this organ called the hypothalamus.

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And let's get into, what is it?

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What's its primary function?

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And then how does it affect our lives on a daily basis?

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So if I would use one word to describe the hypothalamus as primary function, it is homeostasis,

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and that means balance, keeping your body in balance.

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So its job is really to help you survive.

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That's its main job.

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And it controls all of the hormones that you make.

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So it controls your pineal production of melatonin, naturally sleep hormone, your pituitary

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glands production of growth hormone and release of prolactin and all of the middle-manager

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hormones like follicle stimulating hormone and lute-nivecing hormone.

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It controls your thyroid's production of the thyroid hormones, your thymus's production,

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that's an organ that's right above your heart, which controls your immune system.

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It controls the thymate hormones.

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It controls your adrenal hormones, your pancreatic hormones, and of course your gonads,

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either testes in a male or a reason of female.

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So it controls all of those hormones.

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It's the master controller.

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You can think of the pituitary as the middle manager.

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It's not actually controlling, but the hypothalamus tells the pituitary to tell the thyroid adrenals

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and gonads what to do.

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And then the hypothalamus also controls your neurological system, your autonomic nervous system,

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and that's the one that runs without you paying attention to it.

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It's made up of the sympathetic, the excitatory nervous system and the parasympathetic, the

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calming part of the nervous system.

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It controls your heart rate, your blood pressure, your body temperature, your cellular metabolism,

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everything that you don't have to think about.

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And then it also controls the neurotransmitters that run your brain.

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All of those amino acids pass through the hypothalamus and the hypothalamus is the main producer

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of the majority of amino acids.

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One in particular is dopamine.

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It produces more dopamine than the rest of the brain put together.

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And then it also controls your immune system.

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It controls it via your circadian rhythm and through your thymus.

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And it talks directly to your gut.

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So the hypothalamus and the gut, particularly the gut microbiome, are at communication with

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one another so that the hypothalamus then triggers you to eat certain foods and sleep in

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a certain way and have a certain mood based on what's going on in the gut.

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One of the things that I picked up, we've had several shows on the gut in the biome.

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And I've been learning, okay, we've got two brains.

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We've got the one upstairs and we got the one downstairs, the gut.

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And then you mentioned that I have a third brain.

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You have two brains, per se.

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The third brain I believe is your heart.

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Your heart actually has the same neurotransmitian system as your brain and your gut does.

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And so I see your body as having three brains and the hypothalamus orchestrating all three

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of those brains.

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And we usually, throughout history, we refer to the heart as the center of our being.

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And there's some truth to that.

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But it also encompasses the gut and the brain itself.

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>> Exactly.

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So if I had to put in order of importance in terms of survival, your heart would be number one.

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And then your gut would be number two and then your brain actually would be number three.

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So if we had to shut nutrients to the organs in priority, heart gets it first then the

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gut then the brain.

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>> Yeah.

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And explain why you have indicated that the heart is a brain.

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And I found that fascinating because one of the things that I've learned about my grandparents,

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my grandmother died first.

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And my grandfather, who was as strong as an ox, passed very shortly afterwards.

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And I believe he died of a broken heart.

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>> Very, very common.

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It's very common for people who've lived together for a long period of time to follow each other

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in death.

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There's an institute in Northern California called the Heart Math Institute.

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And they've been looking at how the residents or the electromagnetic of the heart influences

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each other, how we influence each other, and also how that influences the brain or the central

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nervous system.

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The heart produces the same neurotransmitters as the brain does and as the gut does.

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And so it actually is a control mechanism although it's not thinking per se, but the feelings

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that you feel create a vibration and also create a chemical response which affects your

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brain and your gut and the rest of your body.

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>> Okay.

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So if the hypothalamus is functioning properly and it's regulating and communicating throughout

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the body, orchestrating the whole thing, we're healthy.

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>> Yep.

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You're healthy, you're aging gracefully.

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It's not going to stop the aging process, but it's a lot slower.

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You go through the change of life a lot later so that everything lasts longer.

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Your vital organs last longer, your brain functions better, your metabolism at a cellular level

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is healthier, you detoxify better.

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So you're healthier.

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>> Yeah.

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And so what happens along the way?

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How does it become dysfunctional?

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>> The lack of proper nutrition so if the hypothalamus doesn't get the nutrients it needs, it

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doesn't function properly.

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Okay.

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Lack of sleep, if you miss enough sleep that will definitely mess up the hypothalamus.

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Toxins like heavy metals, pesticides, chemical toxins will affect the hypothalamic functioning.

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And we also know that certain microbes particularly viruses affect the hypothalamus functioning.

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We know that the Epstein bar virus does and now we know since the pandemic, COVID-19

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definitely affects hypothalamus function.

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In fact, long COVID is hypothalamic dysfunction.

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>> I didn't know that.

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>> That's the greatest thing, one of the greatest things about the pandemic is the amount of

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research coming out on the hypothalamus.

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Now that we're studying COVID-19.

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>> Why do you suppose that there's so little conversation when I go to my doctor or

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just in general about the hypothalamus?

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It seems like it's a very important organ.

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It's doing an extremely important function performing anyhow.

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And when it turns dysfunctional, it can wreak havoc on our bodies.

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Why so much silence?

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>> That's a really good question.

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We can't directly measure hypothalamic hormones to determine function.

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And typically when you see a healthcare provider, they're looking at blood and urine and

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different lab measurements to determine function.

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And this really takes a medical detective in order to figure out what's going on with your

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hypothalamus.

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So when I'm looking at a patient, I'm not just looking at blood work, although I'm looking

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at blood work through different lenses than most healthcare providers.

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I'm putting things together differently.

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But I'm also taking a really, really thorough history.

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I'm looking at the narrative of their complaints and trying to figure out what might have

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set the hypothalamus off in the first place.

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And there's kind of a triad of different organ systems I'm looking at that give me a gist

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of what's going on with the hypothalamus.

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It's kind of like field biology.

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I'm looking at the downplay, the downstream events.

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So like I'm on the trail and I see some scat on the trail and I can tell if it's a coyote.

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And if I, you know, collect it and measure it, I can see if the coyote is in heat or if

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she's nursing babies or she has parasites, but I never saw the coyote.

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So that's the hypothalamus.

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I can look at all of these blood work, but never really see what's actually going on with

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the hypothalamus.

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So I got to put things together and it takes work and it takes time and our medical system

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isn't really set up to spend a lot of time with you to figure that out.

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So when you get treatment, you get treated kind of downstream.

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This is upstream medicines.

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So you get symptom control and not just in medicine, but also also I see this in functional

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medicine as well.

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You're still getting some symptom control.

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We're treating bugs and toxins and, you know, infections, but we're still not looking

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at the central controller.

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Is there any medical devices, you know, diagnostic imaging or something to be able to look at?

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You can see it on an MRI, but just because you have what looks like a normal looking hypothalamus

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doesn't mean that it's functioning normal.

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So the MRI is only going to show the anatomy of the optic.

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But you can't see scarring.

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You can't see scarring.

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You can see scarring.

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You can see tumors.

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We've actually know through studies that people with a chronic depression or PTSD or chronic

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anxiety, their hypothalamus actually looks different than someone without those conditions.

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So we know the HPA access is highly the hypothalamus pituitary adrenal access is highly activated

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during those situations.

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And it actually swells and their hypothalamus is 5% bigger than normal when they have had

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chronic depression, anxiety or PTSD.

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So are doctors becoming more and more aware of the hypothalamus and it's when it's damaged?

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They're starting to become more aware because there's been more research.

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So there's been more research.

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So for instance, right now what's really popular is obesity drugs.

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There's some new drugs for obesity.

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They actually target hypothalamic glucose.

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So what's going on in the hypothalamus?

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Because the research show that that really is the core of obesity and inability to manage

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your weight when you're exercising and you're eating well and you still can't lose weight,

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it's the hypothalamus that's the issue.

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That one single line of research led to.

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So it's now the hypothalamus and the hypothalamic connection is becoming more popular because

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people are interested in that.

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But we also, we see it in aging research.

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Aging begins in the hypothalamus.

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We see it, hypothalamic inflammation is the beginning of the aging in the brain and at

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the cellular level.

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Disfunctional or damaged hypothalamus.

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The outcome of that is that it's going to have a tremendous impact on the life cycle,

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especially amongst women.

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And men.

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And men too.

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Oh yeah, men too.

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Yeah, hypothalgonatism and young men, adrenal issues, thyroid issues, neurological issues,

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male and female, not just women.

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And so by repairing it, we can get back to more of a normal function.

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Is that, yes.

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Is that the goal?

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Yes, the goal is to instead of focus on all the abnormal functioning, focus on the master

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controller and try to give it what it needs to heal and then it will heal the abnormal functioning.

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And so how did you go about approaching that?

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Well, I went about approaching that a couple different ways.

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I tried to figure out what affected the hypothalamus the most.

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And I found that there were five things that affected the hypothalamus that were, and research

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now has caught up with what I've been doing for 25 years.

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So in the last 10 years, research is looking a little more forward towards the hypothalamus.

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And I'd say in the last three to four years, incredibly, way more hypothalamic research

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out there that supports what I've seen clinically in 25 years.

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So the five things are nutrition.

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So if the hypothalamus doesn't get what it needs nutritionally, it can't function properly.

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It's particularly sensitive to getting enough amino acids and enough essential fatty acids,

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particularly poofas which are polyunsaturated fatty acids.

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It also needs lots and lots of botanically derived micronutrients.

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So basically from plants.

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So a plant-based diet which is rich in healthy fats and gives you an adequate amount of protein

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is a great diet for the hypothalamus.

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Standard American diet, not so good.

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It's just like it says, it's sad.

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It's sad.

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So I usually prescribe a true Mediterranean diet for most of my patients and then become

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very particular according to what their health issues are on how we organize that diet.

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The second thing is activity.

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A sedentary body ages faster, doesn't function normally.

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You have to move.

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And so whether it's formal, exercise or a very active lifestyle, you need to be active.

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Exercise actually stimulates the hypothalamus to raise your metabolism at a cellular level.

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Let me talk a little bit about activity.

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So my mom's 94.

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Lived a very active life in the business world, raised five children, amazing woman.

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Still alive today.

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And in fact, we're living with her, helping her to live her best life possible.

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So my dad, who was very active, has since passed just about a year ago.

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And I see this amongst a lot of different, I know women tend to live longer.

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But when it comes to activity, she didn't hold a candle to my dad.

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And I've seen it in other couples along the way as well.

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What's going on there?

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I've always been curious about that.

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Why is it that the women get to live longer?

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Well, women live longer for a couple of reasons.

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One is, is their metabolism actually isn't as fast as male metabolism.

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Men get like more kilocalories per pound than women get to maintain their metabolism.

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So they burn it a little bit faster.

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But because they're burning faster, they're using up cellular resources faster.

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So they're basically burning their engines too hot.

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Okay.

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So women are kind of, you know, I mean, we do better women do better on, you know, super long

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endurance, ultra endurance races because.

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Yeah.

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And going slower longer is how you win the game.

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Yeah.

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So on a metabolic level, women are meant to live a little bit, a little bit longer in that sense.

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We don't need to be as active in order to get the benefits.

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So our activity can be at a lower level and we can still get the same benefits as men,

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men have to be much more active, maintaining the muscle mass that men have compared to women.

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There's a lot more activity.

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It also takes a lot more protein intake.

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So we don't need to eat that, we don't need to kill all those wildebeest and run after

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them in order to maintain this body.

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And even how we store our body fat is for longevity versus men don't do as well storing

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extra body fat.

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Women need the extra body fat to actually survive.

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Interesting.

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00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:19,540
That's a piece of it.

481
00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:22,100
And then there's a lot of theories and kind of the anthropological theories and looking

482
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:28,980
at long-liven animals like whales and elephants and it's the females that live longer.

483
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:36,340
And they actually pass on to the next generation their wisdom, how to survive as an elephant

484
00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:37,660
or a whale.

485
00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:43,420
And so that's part of, you know, I think in human evolution is women live longer because

486
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:48,280
it's the older females that are actually helping the younger females raise the children and

487
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,340
pass on the information on how we survive.

488
00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:52,340
Yeah.

489
00:29:52,340 --> 00:29:54,660
That men can't do that.

490
00:29:54,660 --> 00:30:00,660
But also the male brain doesn't organize all the information in the same way the female

491
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:01,660
brain does.

492
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:02,660
Yeah.

493
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:09,220
The biology and the millennium of years that we've been on this planet and it's interesting

494
00:30:09,220 --> 00:30:12,900
the differences between the sexism, how they perform.

495
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:13,900
I think it's fascinating.

496
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:16,300
And we call it an ember complementary.

497
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,980
We need both of us and we need to perform in different ways.

498
00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:19,980
Yeah.

499
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:25,140
You know, and then there's all this, you know, in between where, you know, certainly females

500
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:28,860
can do what males can do and males can do some of what females can do and we can share

501
00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:33,660
some of these, some of these right now where at an age where we don't need that distinct

502
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:39,300
masculine feminine entities in order to survive because we have so much technology.

503
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:44,980
But we still need those energies, those ways of us being complementary with one another

504
00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:50,700
in order to, you know, survive on this earth and not destroy it and pass on what we need

505
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:52,900
to pass on to the next generation.

506
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:57,140
Assuming we don't go back to the Neon just for all days moving forward, do you see?

507
00:30:57,140 --> 00:30:58,140
Oh, let's hope not.

508
00:30:58,140 --> 00:30:59,140
Yeah, yeah.

509
00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:07,140
But moving forward, do you see the differences becoming more and more blended like evolving

510
00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:08,140
together?

511
00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:09,780
I think we're already seeing that.

512
00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:10,780
Yeah.

513
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:15,340
I think we're already seeing that is that kind of a blending of characteristics because that's

514
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:17,020
how we're surviving.

515
00:31:17,020 --> 00:31:18,020
So.

516
00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:19,020
Yeah.

517
00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:20,020
Fascinating.

518
00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:21,020
Okay.

519
00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:21,020
So you got nutrition activity.

520
00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:22,020
What's the third one?

521
00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:23,380
Third one is sleep.

522
00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:28,660
So you need so many hours of sleep according to your age in order to have a healthy metabolism,

523
00:31:28,660 --> 00:31:30,980
healthy body, healthy brain.

524
00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:35,700
If you start to miss that sleep and we see that in people who are graveyard shifts, it

525
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,940
does cause hypothlemic dysfunction.

526
00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:45,060
So if you're not, especially if you're not sleeping at night in the dark and we see a lot

527
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:49,500
of sleep dysfunction which causes hypothlemic dysfunction ever since these devices, this thing

528
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,660
we're on right now, this computer, these screens, the blue light from these screens and we

529
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:59,140
hold up a, you know, a phone or a tablet and we continue to watch these when we're in

530
00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:04,660
bed, that's all sending messages to the hypothalamus that the day is still going on.

531
00:32:04,660 --> 00:32:05,660
It's not nighttime yet.

532
00:32:05,660 --> 00:32:06,660
Yeah.

533
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:08,500
Raps the hormones of, of nighttime.

534
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:14,580
So, so those that have jobs where they, they have to work nights and sleep during the day.

535
00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:17,020
What's that doing to their hypothalamus?

536
00:32:17,020 --> 00:32:24,180
Is it, if they're staying on a consistent pattern, doesn't it work in function the same way?

537
00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:29,140
They actually find that people that work graveyard shifts for long periods of time have increased

538
00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:34,740
hypothlemic inflammation, they have increased risk for insulin resistance and diabetes and

539
00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:37,980
metabolic disorders, including heart disease and stroke.

540
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:38,980
Oh wow.

541
00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:45,020
Okay, so this is where the rubber meets the road for me as a business owner and I have,

542
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:50,780
you know, a hundred caregivers that are in the city of Portland, you know, helping people

543
00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:53,700
to remain independent in their own home.

544
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,420
And we have caregivers that are performing tasks at night.

545
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:58,420
At night.

546
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:00,700
So, now I'm feeling really bad.

547
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:05,100
Well, a couple things is, night workers need to learn how to sleep during the day and they

548
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,500
need to create a cave.

549
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:12,060
They need to create a very dark space for sleeping and they need to make their routines such

550
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:18,380
that their body is able to make the melatonin during that time because it's very dark and

551
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:23,980
then get up as if the sun is up, even if it's, even if they're getting up at night.

552
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:25,940
So they need to use sun lamps.

553
00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:30,820
They need to be exposed to, you know, natural light or the same, you know, like through a

554
00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:34,460
sun lamp in order to reset that circadian rhythm.

555
00:33:34,460 --> 00:33:40,660
My husband was a police officer for 30 years and worked grave evenings, days, every like

556
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:42,780
a few months they would switch them.

557
00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:48,140
And so we've worked a lot with switching his circadian rhythm so he would be as healthy

558
00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:51,620
as possible and not develop these metabolic conditions.

559
00:33:51,620 --> 00:33:52,620
Yeah.

560
00:33:52,620 --> 00:33:53,620
So it was work.

561
00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:54,620
Did it work?

562
00:33:54,620 --> 00:33:55,620
It did work.

563
00:33:55,620 --> 00:33:58,900
Okay, good.

564
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:04,140
You're listening to Aging Today with your host Mark Turnbull and his guest Deborah Marigapalus,

565
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:08,980
an intuitive and aggrative nurse practitioner focusing on the healthy functioning of the

566
00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:09,980
hypophalamus.

567
00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:16,660
Find out more about Deborah and her Genesis Gold formula at GenesisGold.com.

568
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Stay with us.

569
00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:24,260
We'll have more with Mark and Deborah in just a moment.

570
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I would like to smack old age right in the kisser.

571
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Oh, yes.

572
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:30,180
Still got those moves.

573
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583
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artists and speakers.

584
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:24,100
The most successful realize that age is nothing more than a number.

585
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:29,460
It's worth remembering that Colonel Sanders was well over 60 when he made it big with Kentucky

586
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Fred Chicken.

587
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:35,220
Second, an ability to find joy in working.

588
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:40,860
The 65 and older population is growing faster than the total U.S. population and even

589
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:45,740
people in their 80s are increasingly returning to some type of work.

590
00:35:45,740 --> 00:35:49,420
Third, the knowledge that change is good.

591
00:35:49,420 --> 00:35:56,180
People who are most happy in retirement continue to learn new things and consider new ideas.

592
00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,420
They are not afraid of change.

593
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:04,260
Some go back to school while others continue to learn through workshops, retreats and reading.

594
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:10,660
Explore new interests, meet new people, increase your knowledge and challenge your intellect.

595
00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:15,780
Fourth, they eat well, sleep soundly and play often.

596
00:36:15,780 --> 00:36:19,700
Happily retired people treat themselves like a good friend.

597
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:25,780
They keep themselves well fed, exercise at least three times a week, get proper rest and

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Call ComfortCare to learn how we can create happier days in your retirement.

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601
00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:52,700
And now more with Mark Turnbull and his guest, Nurse Practitioner Deborah Marigapoulos,

602
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:58,060
as they discuss the healthy functioning of the hypothalamus and her supplemental formula,

603
00:36:58,060 --> 00:37:03,500
Genesis Gold, here on Aging Today.

604
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,140
Is there a formula out there because of what you did with your husband?

605
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:13,260
Did you share with your listening audience that maybe is on those night shifts that would

606
00:37:13,260 --> 00:37:14,260
be helpful?

607
00:37:14,260 --> 00:37:19,900
Yes, so what you want to do is you want to, when you're going to sleep, you want to make

608
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:24,860
sure that you haven't overexposed yourself to too much light before you go to sleep.

609
00:37:24,860 --> 00:37:26,700
So almost like you're in the desk.

610
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:33,180
So it'd be a good idea to put on some pink tone sunglasses and as you're driving home

611
00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:38,020
in the day light, the sun's coming up but you're pretending it's dusk so that you can start

612
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,340
making melatonin, okay?

613
00:37:40,340 --> 00:37:44,580
And then when you're going to sleep, you want to make sure your room is completely dark.

614
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:46,740
Now of course you may be waking up later.

615
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:51,100
So you might need to use and what we got were those light, those alarms that were like

616
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:55,580
a sun lamp so that it would slowly get lighter and lighter and lighter and then have a

617
00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:58,780
sound alarm as well to wake him up.

618
00:37:58,780 --> 00:38:04,860
And then at least 20 minutes in a 24 hour period per day needs to be exposed to either natural

619
00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:11,020
light or the sun lamps to reset that circadian rhythm.

620
00:38:11,020 --> 00:38:16,620
People will leave a nighttime job, drive home during the day exhausted, drink a bunch of caffeine,

621
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:20,580
try to keep themselves up so they can make the drive and they're literally turning all

622
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:25,180
their systems on for daytime when they need to be turning them down.

623
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:28,220
So trying to adjust some of your habits.

624
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:32,660
So for instance, because I worked some night shifts as a nurse early on so instead of

625
00:38:32,660 --> 00:38:37,940
caffeine it up, I would actually just make sure I didn't urinate before driving home so

626
00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:43,580
I had a full bladder and I would get a cup of ice and I'd put it between my legs so I'd

627
00:38:43,580 --> 00:38:47,180
be cold and stay awake during the drive.

628
00:38:47,180 --> 00:38:49,220
Yeah, all that's going to happen.

629
00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:54,780
And then having my adrenals up again, so you've got to find little tricks so that you

630
00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:58,780
can then get to bed and then everything was like, "Weat, at the time there wasn't blackout

631
00:38:58,780 --> 00:38:59,780
shades.

632
00:38:59,780 --> 00:39:04,540
I used to put foil on the windows to make it completely black in there in the room."

633
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:05,540
Yeah, wow.

634
00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:07,540
What else about sleep?

635
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:10,940
Well, I think the biggest thing is starting a routine.

636
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:14,660
So you need whether you're sleeping during the, hopefully not during the day, but sleeping

637
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:15,860
at night or during the day.

638
00:39:15,860 --> 00:39:17,740
You need some kind of a routine.

639
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:22,340
Your hypothalamus is very attuned to whatever your sleep habits are.

640
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:27,860
So whether that is, you know, listening to certain music, turning off certain lights, reading

641
00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:33,740
a book, taking a hot bath, you, when you stick with that routine, the hypothalamus starts

642
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:35,500
making those nocturnal hormones.

643
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:40,380
And so having a good sleep hygiene means a good sleep routine that works for you.

644
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:41,860
Okay, good.

645
00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:45,100
So it can be different for everyone, but you need to stick with it.

646
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:46,100
Yeah.

647
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:53,660
And trying to get at least seven to nine hours of sleep in the dark as much as possible is

648
00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:54,660
key.

649
00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:58,820
And getting up with the sunlight in the morning and being exposed to that sunlight helps

650
00:39:58,820 --> 00:40:00,980
to reset the circadian rhythm as well.

651
00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:07,300
So I don't know if it's my age or maybe I'm going through what's it called for men, not

652
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:08,300
menopause, but angiopause.

653
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:09,500
Angiopause, thank you.

654
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:10,500
Angiopause.

655
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,420
And maybe I'm going through angiopause.

656
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:13,820
But three o'clock in the morning.

657
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:15,900
I'm like, boom, I'm up.

658
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:16,900
It's going on there.

659
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:21,460
So your hypothalamus is, it's not damaged, but it's not functioning properly.

660
00:40:21,460 --> 00:40:25,500
It's very common as we get older to get these middle of the night awakenings.

661
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:27,860
And it's that a couple of things happen.

662
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:32,060
It's the lowering of melatonin, but it's also a spike in cortisol.

663
00:40:32,060 --> 00:40:37,980
So you get this adrenal circadian dysfunction where you're spiking some cortisol at night.

664
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:40,980
And then of course, you know, a lot of us as we get older, we have to urinate in the middle

665
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:41,980
of the night.

666
00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:45,100
But the reason you have to is because your hypothalamus isn't producing enough anti-diuretic

667
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,500
hormone at night.

668
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,860
So you're not concentrating your urine and your bladder is filling up.

669
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:54,220
So yeah, so all of that is controlled by the hypothalamus.

670
00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:58,140
So if your hypothalamus is functioning normally, even as you get older, you actually sleep

671
00:40:58,140 --> 00:41:00,300
really well all the way through the night.

672
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:01,300
Hmm.

673
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,460
Then I need to work on my hypothalamus.

674
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:05,100
We need to work on your hypothalamus.

675
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:06,100
All right.

676
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:10,100
So we talked about exercise, sleep, and nutrition.

677
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,020
The fourth thing is your mindset.

678
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:17,620
So that's where that whole three brains comes in and the vibration and how that affects

679
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:21,420
your chemistry.

680
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:27,020
If you have a negative mindset, meaning your, the glass is half empty, you know, woe is

681
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:28,020
me.

682
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,900
When's the next shoe going to fall kind of a thing?

683
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:35,140
They actually have shown studies that people that develop dementia with age are more likely

684
00:41:35,140 --> 00:41:38,380
to when they have a negative attitude.

685
00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:44,060
And they actually looked at like almost 50,000 people in like five different countries

686
00:41:44,060 --> 00:41:50,460
and did post-mortem exams on brains and could see that even with neuropathology, if you

687
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:56,780
had a positive mindset, you were less likely to develop dementia even with neuropathology.

688
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:58,300
Wow.

689
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:04,500
So your mindset is huge because what you believe becomes, you can heal yourself through your

690
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:05,500
beliefs.

691
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:07,140
Now you do have to do the other things.

692
00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:09,380
I can't just want it and wish it.

693
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:10,380
Yeah.

694
00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,740
If I'm not eating well and sleeping well and being active.

695
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:14,740
Yeah.

696
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:19,820
The brain is amazing because belief systems, you know, that's, those getting grained.

697
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:25,620
The way I describe it a lot to some of our clients and when I go in and speaking engagements,

698
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:29,980
your belief systems are the way they're patterned into our brains.

699
00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:35,460
It's think of the organ trail and you got all these wagon trains running over the terrain

700
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:40,340
and they just put an imprint, an imprint, an imprint over and over and over again.

701
00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,940
And they're still there today.

702
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:48,100
And belief systems work somewhat the same way, you know, they're just absolutely.

703
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:51,420
So check on a positive attitude.

704
00:42:51,420 --> 00:42:55,260
And it takes some training and you have to literally retrain your brain.

705
00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:59,380
Retrain your neuroendocrine system to think and feel in a different way towards things.

706
00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:00,380
And it is possible.

707
00:43:00,380 --> 00:43:01,380
I've seen it happen.

708
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:02,380
It just takes some work.

709
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,380
Yeah.

710
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:07,660
You've had some, you know, hidden demons in there, some old past life stuff that has been

711
00:43:07,660 --> 00:43:09,820
happening, you know, happened to you.

712
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:13,500
It can catch up with you when you least expect it.

713
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:17,740
So it's super important that you work on those pieces as well.

714
00:43:17,740 --> 00:43:23,780
But it is really, it's very effective to be a really good cheerleader and coach for your

715
00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:24,780
body.

716
00:43:24,780 --> 00:43:25,780
Yeah.

717
00:43:25,780 --> 00:43:28,380
What are some of the ways that you cheerlead for your body?

718
00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:32,980
Well, the thing is, is I tend to be kind of a poly-anipersonally, how that's my personality

719
00:43:32,980 --> 00:43:36,900
and attitude is to see the positive in whatever is happening.

720
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:42,300
But one thing that I try to teach my patients and what I do for myself is I believe everything

721
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,980
happens for a reason, even the bad stuff.

722
00:43:44,980 --> 00:43:47,060
And so there's always a lesson somewhere.

723
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:52,900
So when I gave birth to my inner sex baby, I was pregnant at the same time as quite a few,

724
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:56,580
my other nurse friends were all, you know, about the same age, got married at the same

725
00:43:56,580 --> 00:43:57,700
time.

726
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:01,420
And they were just astounded that I was taking this positive.

727
00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:03,420
Not only were they intersex, they were super premature.

728
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:05,540
They only weighed 2 and 1/2 pounds at birth.

729
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:08,980
So spent, you know, the first six weeks of their life in the NICU.

730
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:12,260
So I saw it as a learning experience for me.

731
00:44:12,260 --> 00:44:18,180
This happened for a reason and I need to figure out why and why it was given not this burden

732
00:44:18,180 --> 00:44:21,620
but this gift and how can I make the best of it?

733
00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:22,620
Yeah.

734
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:28,020
So even when my body talks to me, like I spray an ankle on a trail, do I need to slow down

735
00:44:28,020 --> 00:44:29,020
for some reason?

736
00:44:29,020 --> 00:44:32,060
It could be something as practical as you should have worn your hiking boots and tied them

737
00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:35,620
up tighter or it could be something as, you know what, you need to slow down, you need to

738
00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:36,620
stop.

739
00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:39,740
This is your time to just slow down and stop.

740
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:44,100
So and I tell my body as I'm in the healing process, what a great job it's doing, try to

741
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,140
look for the good stuff and sit at the bad stuff.

742
00:44:47,140 --> 00:44:52,420
You know, positive reinforcement, just like I train a dog, a horse or a child, same I

743
00:44:52,420 --> 00:44:54,260
talked to this body the same way.

744
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:59,980
Yeah, one of my favorite qualities in humans is curiosity.

745
00:44:59,980 --> 00:45:05,740
And essentially that's what you're saying is be curious about even when the bad comes,

746
00:45:05,740 --> 00:45:11,380
you know, take this moment, be curious and ask, okay, well, maybe not so much about why

747
00:45:11,380 --> 00:45:15,180
it happened but how do you want me to respond?

748
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:20,180
And maybe there is something that we can learn from this and make it an opportunity.

749
00:45:20,180 --> 00:45:21,180
Absolutely.

750
00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:22,180
Yeah.

751
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:27,680
I tell patients who have, you know, pretty serious health issues that oftentimes it takes our

752
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:35,260
body, dreaming at us in order for us to listen with a, with a serious diagnosis.

753
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:38,980
When they come in with lesser health issues, I'm saying, well, this is a good thing.

754
00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:39,980
It's just whispering.

755
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:41,380
So let's pay attention.

756
00:45:41,380 --> 00:45:46,780
Well, it's just whispering at you and not screaming with a cancer diagnosis or heart disease

757
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:47,780
diagnosis.

758
00:45:47,780 --> 00:45:49,580
Let's back up a little bit.

759
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:51,220
What else, how can I do things differently?

760
00:45:51,220 --> 00:45:54,340
What else do I need to understand about this situation?

761
00:45:54,340 --> 00:45:55,340
Yeah.

762
00:45:55,340 --> 00:45:56,340
Absolutely.

763
00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:59,260
And it's fun to be around people like that too.

764
00:45:59,260 --> 00:46:00,860
So they're amazing people.

765
00:46:00,860 --> 00:46:06,700
I, um, my administrator, you know, I'm going to give a shout out to my administrator, Joanne.

766
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:13,100
One of the most positive, amazing people that I've ever met and she's had double mastectomy.

767
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:21,180
She's had, she broke, fell off of a curb in the ice storm and shattered her leg, her ankle,

768
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:23,660
and can barely walk.

769
00:46:23,660 --> 00:46:29,100
And through the whole time she showed up to work, she didn't complain.

770
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:34,260
The one thing I'd say to her is, stop being so positive and take a day off.

771
00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:37,260
But she's, but that's what keeps her going.

772
00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:38,780
She's remarkable.

773
00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:40,620
And I just love being around people like that.

774
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:42,340
I've learned so much from her.

775
00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:45,260
When I think I'm done, I can go a little bit harder.

776
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:46,260
Absolutely.

777
00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:48,100
It's an example to follow.

778
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:53,180
On my mother's side of the family, the women tend to live longer.

779
00:46:53,180 --> 00:46:58,660
And I was visiting with some elderly aunt, spinster aunts and cousins.

780
00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:03,380
And one of them who is 90 to years old climbed up on a chair to get some extra coffee cups

781
00:47:03,380 --> 00:47:06,700
to serve us some, it's a Italian family and filly.

782
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:10,020
And the younger cousin came up to her and tried to like, you know, corral her.

783
00:47:10,020 --> 00:47:13,660
So she wouldn't fall and she took her dish talents, slapped at them, said, if you help me,

784
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:14,660
you'll kill me.

785
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:17,500
Let me do it myself.

786
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:18,500
Yeah.

787
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:19,500
That's awesome.

788
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:20,500
Awesome.

789
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:21,500
But it is true.

790
00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:26,020
The more you can do for yourself, you know, the more you show up and do the things that you

791
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:28,740
need to do for yourself, the longer you live.

792
00:47:28,740 --> 00:47:29,740
Yeah.

793
00:47:29,740 --> 00:47:31,180
And that's what we're doing with mom.

794
00:47:31,180 --> 00:47:35,380
You know, she's 94 and you know, we don't let her get away with anything.

795
00:47:35,380 --> 00:47:36,540
She's got to do it on her own.

796
00:47:36,540 --> 00:47:39,660
And I tell her that and she goes, yeah, I want to do it.

797
00:47:39,660 --> 00:47:40,660
Don't do it for me.

798
00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:41,660
Do it with me.

799
00:47:41,660 --> 00:47:42,660
Yeah.

800
00:47:42,660 --> 00:47:43,660
Yeah.

801
00:47:43,660 --> 00:47:44,660
Absolutely.

802
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:45,660
Perfect.

803
00:47:45,660 --> 00:47:49,860
And nutrition, activity, sleep, mindset, what's the fifth one?

804
00:47:49,860 --> 00:47:52,700
The fifth one is hypothalamus support.

805
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:58,140
So basically giving the hypothalamus the actual nutraceuticals it needs to heal.

806
00:47:58,140 --> 00:47:59,980
So this is a tricky one.

807
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:03,980
Research has shown that hypothalamus is very responsive to like I said, depoofas and amino

808
00:48:03,980 --> 00:48:06,140
acids and botanicals.

809
00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:10,180
But even with the perfect diet, it is really hard to get everything that it needs.

810
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:12,740
And if it's dysfunctional, even harder.

811
00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:17,180
So that's where I developed a nutraceutical to actually support the hypothalamus.

812
00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:25,300
My best example for that effect is a young woman who came to see me who was probably in her

813
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:26,700
30s.

814
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:29,620
And she didn't have any hormones of her own.

815
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:31,900
She never started her periods when she was young.

816
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:35,700
She was on adrenal support thyroid hormone.

817
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:40,140
She was taking sex hormones and she also was diabetic, taking insulin.

818
00:48:40,140 --> 00:48:43,340
She was on everything because she didn't make any hormones on her own.

819
00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:48,780
And so she came to me in the beginning to get off all the synthetics and try to do more

820
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:49,780
natural things.

821
00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:54,420
So we did bioidenticals and I was using more supplements with her instead of her anti-anxiety

822
00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:57,420
and her sleep aids and that kind of thing.

823
00:48:57,420 --> 00:49:02,620
And after a couple of three years of working together, I finally had my nutraceutical develop

824
00:49:02,620 --> 00:49:05,980
and I said, let's just feed your hypothalamus and see if you can make your own hormones.

825
00:49:05,980 --> 00:49:07,980
And within 18 months she was.

826
00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:09,500
She was making all of her own hormones.

827
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:10,500
We got her off adrenal hormones.

828
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:12,380
We got her off thyroid hormones.

829
00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:14,220
She no longer needed to take sex hormones.

830
00:49:14,220 --> 00:49:15,500
She had periods.

831
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:20,300
So I told her she needed to use contraception if she didn't want to have a baby.

832
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:22,220
And she said, oh no, I've been infertile all my life.

833
00:49:22,220 --> 00:49:24,740
I'm like, but you're not now.

834
00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:27,780
And at the age of 41 she gave birth to a healthy baby boy.

835
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:28,780
Wow.

836
00:49:28,780 --> 00:49:29,780
Wow.

837
00:49:29,780 --> 00:49:30,780
That's really.

838
00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:34,620
So I know that you can actually heal the hypothalamus.

839
00:49:34,620 --> 00:49:36,340
It just takes time.

840
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:37,340
A lot of time.

841
00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:42,060
But at least 90 days just to get things started and then one month per year you've been out

842
00:49:42,060 --> 00:49:43,060
of balance.

843
00:49:43,060 --> 00:49:44,460
In her case, it was like 18 years.

844
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:45,460
She was out of balance.

845
00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:50,100
So it took a full year and a half to get back into balance where the hypothalamus took

846
00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:51,420
over.

847
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:57,460
And maybe you've already answered this question, but what's depleted that's causing all these

848
00:49:57,460 --> 00:49:59,620
dysfunctions in our body?

849
00:49:59,620 --> 00:50:06,940
Did the hypothalamus start out with a full tank of gas and over time it didn't get a

850
00:50:06,940 --> 00:50:13,780
chance to replenish itself of whatever amino acids or whatever.

851
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:15,660
I'm not a very good medical person.

852
00:50:15,660 --> 00:50:17,060
So I don't have the terminology.

853
00:50:17,060 --> 00:50:18,060
Oh, is this right?

854
00:50:18,060 --> 00:50:20,380
I'm your common dumb guy.

855
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:21,380
What can I tell you?

856
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:22,980
I'm a dumb jock.

857
00:50:22,980 --> 00:50:25,860
But what happened along the way?

858
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:31,900
And then let's talk about how to refuel the tank so that the hypothalamus is functioning

859
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:33,740
at a high level again.

860
00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:39,220
I think the majority of people in our modern society don't eat enough variety of foods

861
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:42,900
to get all the micronutrients necessary for the hypothalamus.

862
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,620
And we also don't eat in season.

863
00:50:45,620 --> 00:50:51,140
So our hypothalamus, actually, as well as the rest of our physical bodies, developed when

864
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:52,860
we were more hunter-gatherers.

865
00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:58,020
OK, so we would follow the herds and we would gather what foods were available most of

866
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:02,060
the time we lived by water sources, usually by the ocean.

867
00:51:02,060 --> 00:51:06,460
So we got a lot more sea vegetation or fish.

868
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:09,580
And we got nutrients in a different way than we get now.

869
00:51:09,580 --> 00:51:13,420
Most of the patients that I see, although they usually eat pretty darn healthy because

870
00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:15,860
by the time they come to me, they've tried everything.

871
00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:18,500
But the majority tend to limit their diet to very few foods.

872
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,180
I mean, I've had some day like eat five things.

873
00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:25,900
That's not enough variety for the hypothalamus to get all the micronutrients necessary.

874
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:31,540
So I grew up on a healthy Mediterranean diet and I still wasn't getting everything

875
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:32,540
necessary.

876
00:51:32,540 --> 00:51:37,380
Stress, infections, you can throw things off.

877
00:51:37,380 --> 00:51:38,380
My body fat was too low.

878
00:51:38,380 --> 00:51:44,780
I was a competitive athlete, a tri-apalete, and I didn't have enough body fat to make the

879
00:51:44,780 --> 00:51:46,340
hormones I needed.

880
00:51:46,340 --> 00:51:50,460
So I found, once I started supporting myself nitrissutically, I was able to get back in

881
00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:51,660
a balance.

882
00:51:51,660 --> 00:51:54,580
And that's what I see with my patients and my customers as well.

883
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:55,580
It takes time.

884
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:58,180
It doesn't happen overnight.

885
00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:00,020
But it does happen.

886
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:01,500
And so that then supports.

887
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:02,500
It's the fifth piece.

888
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:03,500
It's not the only piece.

889
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:09,100
They can't eat a sad diet and not sleep and be a couch potato and have a negative attitude

890
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,580
and just take the nitrissutical.

891
00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:12,860
That's not going to be enough.

892
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:20,780
So is it that the hypothalamus is in a worse position in our society today than it was 100

893
00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:21,780
years ago?

894
00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:22,780
Even longer ago, yes.

895
00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:28,380
Well, as soon as we started, you know, basically limiting how much, what kind of foods that

896
00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:36,180
we were able to get and eating by season and basically gathering foods as much as possible

897
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:40,900
herbs and other foods, not just meat and potatoes kind of thing.

898
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:43,620
Our hypothalamus stopped getting the nutrition that it needed.

899
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:47,620
Now we have medical science that gives us antibiotics and all kinds of things that will

900
00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:50,460
prolong our lives because we can fight infections.

901
00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:56,880
But it's hard to get that vast amount of nutrition that we were exposed to and that we were

902
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,880
brought up with.

903
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,520
We were genetically brought up with, you know, from the beginning of our DNA.

904
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,960
So I think that that's a piece of it, but, you know, we also live a lot longer too than

905
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,360
we were few hundred years ago.

906
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,240
And so, you know, we're actually needing more refined fuel as we get older.

907
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:19,800
We don't do as well at, you know, digesting and absorbing those nutrients as we did when

908
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,800
we were younger.

909
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,040
So let's talk a little bit about what you feel the hypothalamus, if I can use this as

910
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,880
a analogy, the gas tank.

911
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,160
What do you fill it up with?

912
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,480
You created this formula that --

913
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,480
Yes, I did.

914
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,480
Okay.

915
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,480
I did.

916
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,920
And I based it on a couple of things.

917
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:42,000
There wasn't a lot of research back in 1999 when I was first really doing my own in-house

918
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,160
studies with my really sick patients and saying, "Wow, this, it must be the hypothalamus

919
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,960
steps, you know, that's out of balance.

920
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:49,960
What can I feed it?"

921
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,520
And I was looking for one thing, figuring there would be one amino acid or one fatty acid or

922
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,720
one vitamin.

923
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,160
But it wasn't one thing.

924
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,400
And so the actually, the answer to me in my research now has proven what I put together,

925
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
but in 1999, there wasn't the research.

926
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:09,960
So that same intersex child was 14 years old when they directed me on how I was going

927
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,200
to figure this out.

928
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,240
And I was trying to do some research online.

929
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:15,960
There wasn't really good search engines then.

930
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,720
And really, there was no research on the hypothalamus and nutrition.

931
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:23,740
And they basically told me, "Mom, maybe you should meditate on this and see what comes

932
00:54:23,740 --> 00:54:24,740
in your dreams."

933
00:54:24,740 --> 00:54:25,740
So I did it.

934
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,860
I meditated on it and I put out to the universe.

935
00:54:27,860 --> 00:54:32,780
Please show me what I can feed the hypothalamus for these patients to help them to heal.

936
00:54:32,780 --> 00:54:36,700
And I had the same exact dream every night for three months.

937
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:38,700
And in the dream, I was standing before a tree.

938
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:41,180
I called it the tree of life and I was holding a chalice.

939
00:54:41,180 --> 00:54:42,940
It looked like a wine chalice.

940
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:44,580
And there was a liquid in it.

941
00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:46,420
And my worst patients would come to me.

942
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:48,100
They'd drink from this cup.

943
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,620
We never spoke.

944
00:54:49,620 --> 00:54:52,300
And I'd wake up and ask, "What was in the cup?"

945
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,100
And I would just start writing.

946
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,020
And so I had this journal of all this stuff.

947
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:57,420
Some of it was chemical equations.

948
00:54:57,420 --> 00:54:58,420
I had to look some stuff up.

949
00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:01,100
It was like this intuitive writing.

950
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:04,100
After three months, I came up with this formula and I put it together.

951
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,460
It took me three years to actually create it.

952
00:55:06,460 --> 00:55:10,340
So what it is, the basis of it, what came in at first were the amino acids.

953
00:55:10,340 --> 00:55:14,140
And they were certain, we all have the same amino acids in our systems.

954
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:17,180
A frog has the same amino acids as you do.

955
00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:18,700
It just put together differently.

956
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:20,220
Where do we get naturally?

957
00:55:20,220 --> 00:55:21,980
Where do we get amino acids from?

958
00:55:21,980 --> 00:55:22,980
Protein.

959
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:23,980
From protein.

960
00:55:23,980 --> 00:55:24,980
And primarily red meat.

961
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:25,980
No, not just red meat.

962
00:55:25,980 --> 00:55:29,820
You can get it from any animal source, but you can get proteins from plants as well.

963
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:34,700
You just have to be able to put certain plants together in order to get all these central

964
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:35,700
proteins.

965
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:40,180
Some of the proteins you can make by taking other amino acids and putting it together.

966
00:55:40,180 --> 00:55:43,420
But for the most part, you do need there's nine essential amino acids that you've got to

967
00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:44,940
get from your diet.

968
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:48,980
And most vegetarians have a difficult time getting that unless they know how to put their

969
00:55:48,980 --> 00:55:54,020
legumes together with certain greens so they can get those nine essential amino acids.

970
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:58,220
But which means we can't make it on your own based on your protein foods.

971
00:55:58,220 --> 00:56:00,180
So mostly we get it from these proteins.

972
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:04,660
What I did with these amino acids is I just put them together as they came in these dreams

973
00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:07,860
of mine and created this amino acid formula.

974
00:56:07,860 --> 00:56:13,500
I was able to actually start playing around with that before I manufactured the whole formula

975
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:17,900
because I worked with an amino acid provider and like pretty much put these together in

976
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:23,020
my kitchen and started experimenting with people and family and animals and whatever, who

977
00:56:23,020 --> 00:56:26,980
would ever take my stuff and report back to me what they were feeling.

978
00:56:26,980 --> 00:56:28,500
And so that was the first three years.

979
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:33,980
And then after that, the rest of the formula is the majority of it is C-bedetation and

980
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:39,100
then whole plant foods are in this, including a lot of the botanicals and herbs that I would

981
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:44,620
use with my patients for adrenal support, thyroid support, pituitary, gonadal support,

982
00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:47,420
but in very, very tiny microdosing.

983
00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:50,980
So it's kind of like a soup, this green soup.

984
00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:54,100
It's a powder, you mix it with water and you drink it down.

985
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:59,060
There's digestive aids, detoxification aids in there, probiotics, that's my product.

986
00:56:59,060 --> 00:57:03,600
It's called Genesis Gold and it's what I put together to actually support the hypothalamus

987
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,600
long term.

988
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,620
What do you say to the critic out there that says, "Come on Deborah, really?

989
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:09,620
In a dream?

990
00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:11,820
You got this recipe?"

991
00:57:11,820 --> 00:57:13,980
So how do you respond?

992
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:21,120
Well, I think that most people who are creative actually intuit things before they research

993
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,180
them, even Albert Einstein, he dreamt his theory of relativity.

994
00:57:26,180 --> 00:57:28,420
That came in his dreams.

995
00:57:28,420 --> 00:57:29,980
So then he did the math.

996
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:33,780
I dreamt what was possible and then I did the math.

997
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:38,780
I did the research on every single ingredient, try to figure out if they would work together,

998
00:57:38,780 --> 00:57:43,660
didn't change what came in the dreams, but just made sure that I could, I could hypothetically

999
00:57:43,660 --> 00:57:45,380
say, "Yes, this would be safe.

1000
00:57:45,380 --> 00:57:46,780
They would work together."

1001
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:52,500
And then I started doing in-house clinical trials per se, feeding it to people and having

1002
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:56,340
them report back and doing vital signs and blood work and checking to see what was going

1003
00:57:56,340 --> 00:57:57,740
on.

1004
00:57:57,740 --> 00:58:02,620
Since I've put together this formula, the research now has shown that the hypothalamus is

1005
00:58:02,620 --> 00:58:09,660
responsive to certain amino acids, polyunsaturated fatty acids, sea vegetation, what's in the formula?

1006
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,420
We actually see proof of that.

1007
00:58:11,420 --> 00:58:18,300
But if I waited until research proved what I kind of intuitively know and what I how I work

1008
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:21,500
with my patients, I would not have been able to help as many people.

1009
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,140
I tend to work out of the box.

1010
00:58:24,140 --> 00:58:26,980
Somebody comes to me and says, "Please, you know, what do you think?

1011
00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:27,980
What do you do?"

1012
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:32,900
And I'll do research online and try to figure out what's going on, but sometimes there's

1013
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:36,580
not any protocols for this particular issue for them.

1014
00:58:36,580 --> 00:58:40,660
So I say, "Listen, they've done these my study, these rat study, and they're here in Japan

1015
00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:42,180
and they're doing this.

1016
00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:48,180
Let's see if this might work for you and create a therapeutic plan for this person."

1017
00:58:48,180 --> 00:58:52,180
And then there's one person and then there's five people and then there's 20 people and

1018
00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:53,180
now I have a protocol.

1019
00:58:53,180 --> 00:58:55,220
That's the detective part of it.

1020
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:56,220
You know, the research.

1021
00:58:56,220 --> 00:58:57,220
Yeah.

1022
00:58:57,220 --> 00:59:02,980
And there's that relationship between Western medicine and Eastern medicine and somewhere

1023
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:06,980
where those two worlds come together.

1024
00:59:06,980 --> 00:59:09,700
And essentially that's what you're doing.

1025
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:17,140
And I think on the west side of the street we're coming to grips with the east side and

1026
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:18,700
embracing it more and more.

1027
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:21,700
I see that in our culture and so that's all good.

1028
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:28,460
Well, most Western providers, most conventional medical providers, physicians, nurses, etc.

1029
00:59:28,460 --> 00:59:34,260
will say that they do need to follow their intuition and when they don't is when they make

1030
00:59:34,260 --> 00:59:35,260
mistakes.

1031
00:59:35,260 --> 00:59:36,260
Yeah.

1032
00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:39,660
So even though we don't talk a lot about it, I mean for years, I really

1033
00:59:39,660 --> 00:59:45,060
didn't tell my patients how I did what I did because it was too kind of spooky.

1034
00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:49,100
I would dream about somebody coming to me before they ever arrived.

1035
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,980
I already knew what was wrong with them.

1036
00:59:50,980 --> 00:59:55,420
They'd walk in the door and I'm like, oh, I already saw you last night in my dream.

1037
00:59:55,420 --> 00:59:57,500
So I don't know what that is.

1038
00:59:57,500 --> 00:59:59,980
All I know is I'm open to it.

1039
00:59:59,980 --> 01:00:03,820
So when this dream of this formulas came and I took it seriously because I've been dreaming

1040
01:00:03,820 --> 01:00:07,860
things in my life, my entire life since I was a child.

1041
01:00:07,860 --> 01:00:11,740
And things would happen that were I had already drifted.

1042
01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:14,340
I already kind of knew it.

1043
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:16,340
So I follow that.

1044
01:00:16,340 --> 01:00:18,340
And that's how I even do a lot of my research.

1045
01:00:18,340 --> 01:00:23,260
So rather than doing exhausted Google searches, I basically kind of meditate about it and put

1046
01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:28,020
that out in the universe and then just the right terminology comes to me and things pop

1047
01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:30,060
up pretty quickly.

1048
01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:36,260
So how many years ago was it that you put this formula together through the dream process?

1049
01:00:36,260 --> 01:00:39,060
I first manufactured it in 2003.

1050
01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:41,380
So it's been just over 20 years.

1051
01:00:41,380 --> 01:00:42,380
20 years.

1052
01:00:42,380 --> 01:00:47,900
And it has evolved in the sense that because it's from all around the earth, I literally,

1053
01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:54,900
the botanicals are from every continent and every sea, summer wild crafted, summer harvested

1054
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:58,060
through, you know, farming, the majority is organic.

1055
01:00:58,060 --> 01:01:00,060
Some isn't organic because it's wild crafted.

1056
01:01:00,060 --> 01:01:02,380
But it's just I've had a change thing.

1057
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:07,580
So I used to get a certain seaweed that was in the Pacific Northwest area around the Pacific

1058
01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:14,220
fire ring in the Northwest after the radioactive explosion in Japan.

1059
01:01:14,220 --> 01:01:16,500
What was that 10 years ago or so?

1060
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:18,780
I had a change where we harvested.

1061
01:01:18,780 --> 01:01:25,300
So I'm constantly going with what's happening on the earth and species may change.

1062
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:31,100
The nutrient quality is very similar, but the species change according to what's available

1063
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,100
and what's safe.

1064
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:34,100
Yeah.

1065
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,100
Humans can't mess around with the world.

1066
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,300
I can change your world with harvested.

1067
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:44,260
But you don't want to over harvest in certain areas and change things up a little bit.

1068
01:01:44,260 --> 01:01:45,260
So.

1069
01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:46,260
Yeah.

1070
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:51,540
And so I can picture, you know, Deborah and her little white coat and she's mixing these

1071
01:01:51,540 --> 01:01:52,540
formulas.

1072
01:01:52,540 --> 01:02:00,780
How do you know how much of, you know, one herb or plant base or amino acid or whatever

1073
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:01,780
the ingredient is?

1074
01:02:01,780 --> 01:02:07,820
How do you know how much the hypothalamus needs or can take?

1075
01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:08,820
So you don't know of her dose.

1076
01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:09,820
That's a really good question.

1077
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:15,700
So research is looked at, you know, single nutrients like chromium, single amino acids like

1078
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:19,980
branch chained, but they haven't looked at like all of these nutrients I put together.

1079
01:02:19,980 --> 01:02:23,020
In that case, that is where I really stuck with my dream.

1080
01:02:23,020 --> 01:02:30,620
My dream was very specific on exactly how much of each amino acid and how much of each

1081
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:33,380
of the different botanicals needed to be in there.

1082
01:02:33,380 --> 01:02:37,820
And so I, I have not diverted from proportions.

1083
01:02:37,820 --> 01:02:46,860
So in a nutshell, the hypothalamus is a living, breathing organ and it's, over time, is malnourished

1084
01:02:46,860 --> 01:02:49,780
if you will, aged from a layman's term here.

1085
01:02:49,780 --> 01:02:51,260
And it needs a boost.

1086
01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:52,940
It needs some help.

1087
01:02:52,940 --> 01:02:56,340
And so then you said, well, we can fix this.

1088
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:58,100
We can make it healthy again.

1089
01:02:58,100 --> 01:02:59,540
That's an in that shelf.

1090
01:02:59,540 --> 01:03:03,900
That's what I did is I put together something that I could feed my patients and my family

1091
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:07,220
and say, okay, is this making us healthier, great?

1092
01:03:07,220 --> 01:03:12,820
And then when I, when I did that for quite a few years is before I introduced it on the market.

1093
01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:14,540
So I kept it in a house for a long time.

1094
01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:15,780
For a long time.

1095
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:19,180
I did because I wanted to be sure it was really helping people.

1096
01:03:19,180 --> 01:03:20,500
Yeah.

1097
01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:25,180
What has been the, the results, you know, what are some of the testimonies of people?

1098
01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:29,180
So like I said, with that patient that had the pan hypopartueteriasm, she's like a

1099
01:03:29,180 --> 01:03:30,940
really dapped, drastic case.

1100
01:03:30,940 --> 01:03:35,380
But I have women who've been struggling with infertility and are able to get pregnant

1101
01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:39,220
within three to six months with the hypophilomic support.

1102
01:03:39,220 --> 01:03:41,580
It's definitely slowed down the menopause process.

1103
01:03:41,580 --> 01:03:48,300
If you start taking it early on, I went through menopause about 10 years later than my sisters

1104
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:51,220
who did not take my genesis cold.

1105
01:03:51,220 --> 01:03:53,100
So more like what my mom did.

1106
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:57,260
So we grew up with the same diet and we pretty much handle stress pretty similarly.

1107
01:03:57,260 --> 01:04:04,620
But I started supporting my hypothalmus in like 38 years old and didn't go through menopause

1108
01:04:04,620 --> 01:04:06,620
until I was in my mid 50s.

1109
01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:08,980
They went through it in their mid 40s.

1110
01:04:08,980 --> 01:04:12,140
So genetically we look like four peas in a pod.

1111
01:04:12,140 --> 01:04:14,100
But I know that there's a difference there.

1112
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:18,940
We know that if you prolong the change, it will increase your longevity and slow the aging

1113
01:04:18,940 --> 01:04:19,940
process.

1114
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:24,500
I've had people that have been on thyroid support and they still have a thyroid.

1115
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,700
So if you're missing your thyroid, you're going to have to take thyroid support.

1116
01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:28,700
But they still have a thyroid.

1117
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:32,740
They've been on thyroid support for years and were able to get them off it once the hypophilic

1118
01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:38,220
is balanced or they have autoimmune conditions and they don't have that under control.

1119
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:42,540
They're very symptomatic and with hypothlemic balancing, they're not as symptomatic, they're

1120
01:04:42,540 --> 01:04:44,580
not as reactive.

1121
01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,900
So it just takes a lot of time.

1122
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:49,980
People have struggled with weight.

1123
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:52,700
People have struggled with memory learning disabilities.

1124
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:58,260
It's worked really well for children and adults with learning disabilities.

1125
01:04:58,260 --> 01:05:04,020
So is there a time when it's too early to take it or too late to take it or?

1126
01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:05,620
You mean in terms of the age process?

1127
01:05:05,620 --> 01:05:06,620
Yes.

1128
01:05:06,620 --> 01:05:08,900
I have women who have taken it through pregnancy.

1129
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:11,860
Of course I always tell them they need to check with their healthcare provider and they've

1130
01:05:11,860 --> 01:05:18,820
taken it while they're breastfeeding and they've fed it to their young children as toddlers.

1131
01:05:18,820 --> 01:05:21,220
We've had quite a few children taking it.

1132
01:05:21,220 --> 01:05:26,540
And the oldest patient I've had taken is into their 90s.

1133
01:05:26,540 --> 01:05:30,700
And I've had people that have taken it since the beginning of its induction so they've been

1134
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:34,020
on it for 20 plus years.

1135
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:41,300
So when it comes to menopausal women during the perifays, the menopausal phase or the

1136
01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:45,220
postmenopausal phase, does that matter when you start?

1137
01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:53,020
You can start at any time, it's I think in order to like extend the lifetime of your gonads,

1138
01:05:53,020 --> 01:05:54,860
the earlier you started the better.

1139
01:05:54,860 --> 01:06:00,900
So if it's a woman's going to go through menopausal 51, let's say, if she can start it in her

1140
01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:04,340
early 40s, she may be able to extend her menopausal.

1141
01:06:04,340 --> 01:06:08,020
And at least make the whole situation much easier.

1142
01:06:08,020 --> 01:06:12,620
She's not going to be all the sleepless nights, the moodiness, the hot flashes, same for

1143
01:06:12,620 --> 01:06:19,400
men with their issues with not being able to put on the muscle mass and having brain fog

1144
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,860
and they get hot flashes too when they're testosterone bottoms out.

1145
01:06:22,860 --> 01:06:26,860
And sleepless nights, it'll improve that.

1146
01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:32,780
But I've had people started in their 60s and 70s too and notice a change in their health,

1147
01:06:32,780 --> 01:06:36,540
more vitality, more vigor, deeper sleep, dreaming.

1148
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:39,540
I got one final question then I want to ask her.

1149
01:06:39,540 --> 01:06:47,860
And that is if we don't pay attention to our hypothermalists and we go untreated, does it shorten

1150
01:06:47,860 --> 01:06:51,140
my life or is it just make my life more discomfort?

1151
01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:52,140
Both.

1152
01:06:52,140 --> 01:06:56,500
You won't have as vital a life and your life will be shortened.

1153
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:58,540
Aging begins in the hypothermalis.

1154
01:06:58,540 --> 01:07:02,060
So the more dysfunctional it is, the shorter your longevity.

1155
01:07:02,060 --> 01:07:06,220
So if you didn't have a dysfunctional hypothermalis, you may live, you know, six to 12 years

1156
01:07:06,220 --> 01:07:08,780
longer than with the dysfunction.

1157
01:07:08,780 --> 01:07:13,900
And those last years with the dysfunction will be much worse in terms of your vitality and

1158
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:16,140
ability to do for yourself.

1159
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:17,220
Think for yourself.

1160
01:07:17,220 --> 01:07:20,540
If your hypothermalis is dysfunctional, if you don't help it along.

1161
01:07:20,540 --> 01:07:21,540
Yeah.

1162
01:07:21,540 --> 01:07:26,700
If somebody is listening and they want to get a hold of you, what's the best way to do that?

1163
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:29,620
My website is genesisgold.com.

1164
01:07:29,620 --> 01:07:36,100
All the emails are there to get a hold of me, to get a hold of my team to ask questions.

1165
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:42,540
I have lots and lots of posts there, blog posts, and also a big YouTube channel to educate

1166
01:07:42,540 --> 01:07:47,700
you on pretty much any aspect of health and how it's related to the hypothermalis.

1167
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,540
I've hundreds of videos.

1168
01:07:49,540 --> 01:07:50,540
Okay.

1169
01:07:50,540 --> 01:07:52,700
Do you consult also with people?

1170
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:53,700
I do.

1171
01:07:53,700 --> 01:07:54,700
I do.

1172
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:55,700
I do.

1173
01:07:55,700 --> 01:07:56,700
I do.

1174
01:07:56,700 --> 01:07:57,700
I take, I still am taking patients.

1175
01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:02,740
I also do consults for non-patients through my company, Genesis Health Products, where I

1176
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:10,580
basically talk with you, look at your blood results, all of your lab results, and develop a

1177
01:08:10,580 --> 01:08:15,260
therapeutic plan, try to figure out what's off and then develop a therapeutic plan.

1178
01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:18,500
You most of which you can do for yourself and some of which you'll take back to a health

1179
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:21,660
care provider and say, "Hey, I consult it with this expert."

1180
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:25,660
And she's saying that I probably need to have this and this and this.

1181
01:08:25,660 --> 01:08:26,660
Yeah.

1182
01:08:26,660 --> 01:08:27,660
Fantastic.

1183
01:08:27,660 --> 01:08:28,660
Great support.

1184
01:08:28,660 --> 01:08:29,660
Well, thank you.

1185
01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:30,660
You're welcome.

1186
01:08:30,660 --> 01:08:31,660
Very welcome, Mark.

1187
01:08:31,660 --> 01:08:32,660
Yeah.

1188
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:40,660
I really appreciate it and love, love, love your research and this is a life love and I'm

1189
01:08:40,660 --> 01:08:46,180
so grateful for being around you and being a part of what you're doing and we want to

1190
01:08:46,180 --> 01:08:50,860
get the message out and you can have a healthy hypothermalis.

1191
01:08:50,860 --> 01:08:55,580
And which means you'll have a healthier life and age much more gracefully and live longer.

1192
01:08:55,580 --> 01:08:56,580
Amen to that.

1193
01:08:56,580 --> 01:08:58,580
We all want that for sure.

1194
01:08:58,580 --> 01:08:59,580
Absolutely.

1195
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:00,580
All right.

1196
01:09:00,580 --> 01:09:02,580
We want to be functioning right up to that last minute.

1197
01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:03,580
Absolutely.

1198
01:09:03,580 --> 01:09:04,580
I do.

1199
01:09:04,580 --> 01:09:10,860
And what an inspiration to be around people that are in their late 90s and early hundreds

1200
01:09:10,860 --> 01:09:16,980
and they still have that get up and go and they've got a positive attitude in their spirit

1201
01:09:16,980 --> 01:09:20,180
and a lot of people say, "I don't want to live that long."

1202
01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:25,780
Well, you haven't been around positive people because it's exciting to be able to be in

1203
01:09:25,780 --> 01:09:28,660
that position in life and to look back.

1204
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:29,660
Oh my goodness.

1205
01:09:29,660 --> 01:09:31,540
There's so much to look back on.

1206
01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:36,700
And then my mom and I sit around the living room and we talk about looking forward.

1207
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:40,660
You know, what it's going to look like going forward.

1208
01:09:40,660 --> 01:09:41,660
So it is amazing.

1209
01:09:41,660 --> 01:09:46,340
I mean, she's lived so much change in her life to imagine the amount of change that's

1210
01:09:46,340 --> 01:09:51,540
going to happen in the next 20, 30, 40, 50 years is huge.

1211
01:09:51,540 --> 01:09:52,540
Yeah.

1212
01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:53,540
Absolutely.

1213
01:09:53,540 --> 01:09:54,540
All right.

1214
01:09:54,540 --> 01:09:56,540
Well, thanks again, Deborah, for being on aging today.

1215
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:57,540
Thank you.

1216
01:09:57,540 --> 01:09:58,540
I really appreciate it.

1217
01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:59,540
Thank you, Mark.

1218
01:09:59,540 --> 01:10:00,540
And this is Mark Turnbull, your host.

1219
01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:03,860
I thank all of you for tuning in to aging today.

1220
01:10:03,860 --> 01:10:09,240
And as a reminder, we are the podcast where together we're exploring the many options to

1221
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,760
aging on your terms.

1222
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:16,340
Join us every Monday when we release a new conversation on aging today to your favorite

1223
01:10:16,340 --> 01:10:18,020
podcast channel.

1224
01:10:18,020 --> 01:10:22,380
And just remember this, 2024, we got a new start.

1225
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:27,580
We're all in the process of aging and as we age, we really are better together.

1226
01:10:27,580 --> 01:10:29,180
So stay young at heart.

1227
01:10:29,180 --> 01:10:32,900
You make me feel so young.

1228
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:36,060
You make me feel like spring has sprung.

1229
01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:45,300
And every time I see your face, I'm such a happy individual, the moment that you speak.

1230
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:48,460
I want to go play hide and see.

1231
01:10:48,460 --> 01:10:54,100
I want to go and bounce the moon just like a toy balloon.

1232
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:59,140
Well, you and I, I'll just like a blue top.

1233
01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:01,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1234
01:11:01,140 --> 01:11:03,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1235
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:04,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1236
01:11:04,140 --> 01:11:05,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1237
01:11:05,140 --> 01:11:06,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1238
01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:07,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1239
01:11:07,140 --> 01:11:08,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1240
01:11:08,140 --> 01:11:09,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1241
01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:10,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1242
01:11:10,140 --> 01:11:11,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1243
01:11:11,140 --> 01:11:12,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1244
01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:13,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1245
01:11:13,140 --> 01:11:14,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1246
01:11:14,140 --> 01:11:15,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1247
01:11:15,140 --> 01:11:16,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1248
01:11:16,140 --> 01:11:17,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1249
01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:18,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1250
01:11:18,140 --> 01:11:19,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1251
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:20,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1252
01:11:20,140 --> 01:11:21,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1253
01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:22,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1254
01:11:22,140 --> 01:11:23,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1255
01:11:23,140 --> 01:11:24,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1256
01:11:24,140 --> 01:11:25,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1257
01:11:25,140 --> 01:11:26,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1258
01:11:26,140 --> 01:11:27,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1259
01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:28,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1260
01:11:28,140 --> 01:11:29,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1261
01:11:29,140 --> 01:11:30,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1262
01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:31,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1263
01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:32,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1264
01:11:32,140 --> 01:11:33,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1265
01:11:33,140 --> 01:11:34,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1266
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:35,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1267
01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:36,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1268
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:37,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1269
01:11:37,140 --> 01:11:38,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1270
01:11:38,140 --> 01:11:39,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1271
01:11:39,140 --> 01:11:40,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1272
01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:41,140
I want to go play hide and see.

1273
01:11:41,140 --> 01:11:43,140
Your host has been Mark Turnbull.

1274
01:11:43,140 --> 01:11:46,140
Join Mark and his guest every week on Aging Today.

1275
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:51,140
Your podcast to exploring your options for Aging on your terms.

1276
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:53,140
And you went over the rain.

1277
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:57,140
You make me feel the way I feel today.

1278
01:11:57,140 --> 01:12:01,140
How's you make me feel so?

1279
01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:04,140
You make me feel so?

1280
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:10,140
You make me feel so young?

1281
01:12:10,140 --> 01:12:19,140
You make me feel so young?

1282
01:12:19,140 --> 01:12:22,060
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